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Aug 19, 2014 19:48 |  #1

I'm having trouble getting the highlights in this photo to show up well in a print. The highlights in the water drops are pure white (255,255,255) in the shot but aren't that bright in the prints. Also the fine webs in the lower left barely show up in the prints. I've been playing with levels and contrast and it's just not working. I've been printing on Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy II and it occurs to me that my paper may be the problem, not my processing. Any recommendations?
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Aug 20, 2014 03:14 |  #2

Is it possible that you are not using the correct paper profile?

Or possibly have the image file in an unsuitable style?

Certainly either will affect how an image prints. And then of course a gloss finish paper will have better highlights than a matte paper.


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Aug 20, 2014 03:26 as a reply to  @ Lowner's post |  #3

IIRC, By leaving your whites at 255,255,255 you are not actually laying down any ink and are therefore relying on the paper to show pure white.

The idea is therefore to reduce those 255 settings down a little to say, 252,252,252.

Research into "Minimum dot".


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Aug 20, 2014 06:36 |  #4

If the highlights are really that, with no detail whatsoever then I see no problems in leaving them as 255. They would then take on the brightest tone possible, as they indeed have no ink. Usually one wants the highlights to have a little ink so that they do not stand out as being to hot. I am assuming that you are using a Canon printer. I use an MG5150 (Uses 4 CLI 526 +a PGI 525 carts) for prints up to A4 in size and use Canon Platinum Plus paper (PT101 as the colour profile) which for my printer is the only one that allows for the selection of the highest possible print quality setting 1 while all other paper types that you can select only allow for a max setting of 2. I have been really happy with my prints using this combination.

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Aug 20, 2014 15:55 |  #5

Lowner wrote in post #17106860 (external link)
Is it possible that you are not using the correct paper profile?

No, the profile is correct.

Or possibly have the image file in an unsuitable style?

I don't know what you mean here by style.




  
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Aug 20, 2014 15:58 |  #6

BigAl007 wrote in post #17107006 (external link)
If the highlights are really that, with no detail whatsoever then I see no problems in leaving them as 255. They would then take on the brightest tone possible, as they indeed have no ink.

Right.

Usually one wants the highlights to have a little ink so that they do not stand out as being to hot.

What I want in this case is absolute white; the darkest area is pure black (0,0,0) and I want no color in the highlights of the water drops.




  
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Aug 20, 2014 16:01 |  #7

DunnoWhen wrote in post #17106870 (external link)
Research into "Minimum dot".

I'll take a look at that but I doubt it'll change my mind.;)




  
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Aug 20, 2014 23:46 as a reply to  @ ncjohn's post |  #8

What I read about "minimum dot" is that it's about preventing clipping when you have a bright area in your image that you don't want to be pure white. But there are highlights and then there are highlights, as this poster points out on Model Mayhem:
Better instructions would be, pinpoint dot in the highlights were there is detail and let it go white in the specular highlights...
These water drops are nothing but specular highlights.;)




  
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Aug 24, 2014 20:13 |  #9

What printer are you using? No inkjet paper is going to have the contrast of a modern LCD screen, so you are going to lose the impact one way or another.

With a high end printer with multiple blacks, like a 3880/3800 series, coupled with a high dmax and bright Baryta paper like Canson Baryta Photographique or harman by hahnemuhle fine art baryta, you'lol get as close as you could hope.

That's a hard image to translate to print aside from a true wet lab B&W


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Aug 24, 2014 20:45 as a reply to  @ NatDeroxL7's post |  #10

I'm using a Canon Pro9000II. I understand that a print isn't going to be as contrasty as the screen, I was just wondering if perhaps another paper would show up the contrast a little better.




  
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