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Aug 23, 2014 12:39 |  #1

http://www.thephoblogr​apher.com …photo-world/#.U_jJt_ldUjw (external link)

This article was a good read, although I have no clients, no one to answer to but myself. My T1i was producing very pleasing JPEGs, so what the article is discussing isn't exactly new. It's written from a business point of view, but the point can still apply to hobbyists. Why spend hours in front of a computer if you're not getting paid*?

I myself always use RAW + JPEG, usually posting SOOC or printing the JPEG version.

* - assuming you've got other things going on.


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Aug 23, 2014 13:09 |  #2

MrWho wrote in post #17113284 (external link)
It's written from a business point of view, but the point can still apply to hobbyists. Why spend hours in front of a computer if you're not getting paid*?

Why spend hours doing anything for a hobby? Its a lot faster to buy a table from Ikea than to build one yourself.




  
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Aug 23, 2014 14:13 |  #3

MrWho wrote in post #17113284 (external link)
...Why spend hours in front of a computer if you're not getting paid*?

Because you get better results by exercising artistic control (editing yourself) rather than letting a Canon/Nikon/Sony programmer decide what your images should look like.


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Aug 23, 2014 14:22 |  #4

Hmm, maybe I should stop using a DSLR, since my phone takes jpegs.


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Aug 23, 2014 14:55 |  #5

MrWho wrote in post #17113284 (external link)
I myself always use RAW + JPEG, usually posting SOOC or printing the JPEG version.

Why shoot RAW if you only use the JPEG.


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Aug 23, 2014 17:20 |  #6

to me, half the pleasure is derived from the processing. I liked the traditional darkroom, and i like the modern computer version as well


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Aug 23, 2014 17:23 |  #7

I shoot RAW because I'm not perfect, and find that I can improve pictures in Photoshop. RAW images make it easier for Photoshop to do a good job.

If I were a better photographer I might have less need for RAW


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Aug 23, 2014 18:32 |  #8

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Aug 23, 2014 19:36 |  #9

yes but its my understanding that not all people are in love with the processing part of photography as it takes alot of time and work so they just stay with j-peg! i myself am still learning the raw processing/editing of digital photography to this day,and if i'm lazy i'll go to the j-peg's setting for a faster simpler way to do it..


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Aug 24, 2014 00:45 as a reply to  @ blanex1's post |  #10

If for someone else, I'll take it in RAW.
If it is for family use, recently I switched to JPEG1 and really like it.
LR allows adjustments in JPEG1 without adding of artifacts.


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Aug 24, 2014 07:51 as a reply to  @ kf095's post |  #11

Why spend hours in front of a computer if you're not getting paid*?

I thought the whole point of a hobby WAS to spend hours at it. Very irrelevant argument.

I shoot Raw because, for my whole photographic life, I have wanted the very best quality "negatives" I could get for the darkroom (in my film days) and now for the software, so I can make the very best final "prints" possible for whatever use I have in mind.

It was a "business point of view" for me years ago, now it is almost exclusively a hobby. I still shoot stock, and want good files for that work, but mostly it's about simply enjoying all aspects of photography.




  
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Aug 24, 2014 15:05 |  #12

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Aug 24, 2014 15:30 |  #13

MrWho wrote in post #17113284 (external link)
My T1i was producing very pleasing JPEGs, so what the article is discussing isn't exactly new. It's written from a business point of view, but the point can still apply to hobbyists. Why spend hours in front of a computer if you're not getting paid*?

That doesn't mean you couldn't make them more pleasing by shooting RAW and being able to make more adjustments to them.

From the article posted: "We even dare to say that it is now so much so to the point where that if you know what you’re doing in the first place with your camera that you won’t need to shoot in RAW."

What arrogant hogwash. So, people who shoot RAW don't know how to use their cameras properly? You can't control all apects of the environment, unless you shoot 100% in a studio. I can pull out details in highlights and shadows in RAW that you just can't recover in JPEGs. There are other advantages, but that alone is enough for me to shoot RAW 100% of the time. I don't care if I'm just taking happy-snaps of my dog in the back yard. It's a hobby; I don't mind taking my time with it, and trying to get the best result I can.


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Aug 24, 2014 17:14 |  #14

I shoot RAW because I enjoy the editing aspect of photography! I like to use different processing styles to take the same photo and make it look different, unique. If I were going to only shoot JPEG and tweak the image just a little, I certainly wouldn't have spent the amount of money on photography gear that I have. Seems silly, but that's just me.


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Aug 24, 2014 17:28 |  #15

An important thing with raw - the programs can make JPEG out of them in almost zero time. So no need to invest hours. DPP can use the settings in the camera just the same as the camera can.

The difference with raw is that when it's needed, then it's also possible to ignore these "from camera" default conversion rules and invest some extra time to get a better result.

So with the cost of a bit larger files to store, raw can give almost as fast results. While adding the option of allowing lots of own tweaks.

Taking JPEG only is a bit like buying a new TV or computer in the shop and directly throw away the receit assuming that new gear is so good that there are no need for any warranty. Only access to the raw file allows that backup plan at a later time.


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