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Aug 23, 2014 21:35 |  #2446

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Everyone has different needs and goals; they don't have to make sense to you. ;)

I know, but comparing 2 lenses, what is the purpose? I have 70-200 mkII and i have 135L and 100mm Macro, i can compare thme 3 but then what, just to conclude that one lens can make other lenses redundant or just to have a reason/excuse to get rid of other lenses?

Well, even if i get that FE 70-200 for Sony, then what i can do with Canon 70-200? and if Canon brought a camera that is almost same IQ as Sony A7/A7R [24/36mp] then i may think to have Canon 70-200 mkII again and get rid of Sony FE 70-200 because i am back to Canon.

Also, what is good about FE 70-200? I mean, is it fast AF so it beats Canon 70-200 f2.8II? or it is barely not that much fast AF then Canon 70-200 with Metabones adapter is not that bad then, i can understand only if you have Canon and Sony without many lenses around then sure i may think about Sony versions, but if Canon shooters with lots of Canon lenses trying to move most of their glasses to Sony FE too, what gain if they lose their Canon then one day Canon make them back with new camera say that is 30-40mp? I will always go with Canon if they can bring that camera with 36mp or higher as with Sony A7R and Nikon D8xx series, just because Canon didn't have one yet so i try to make Sony as my main body then it control my lenses plans too.


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Aug 23, 2014 21:38 |  #2447

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My Sony RM-VPR1 shutter release quit working, I have to wiggle the cable to the controller and it might work. What are you guys using for a tethered shutter release.

Call Sony Customer Service and ask for a replacement cable? I had an annoying experience w/ Canon's TC-80N3 Timer where its cable began to fray at the connection base of the timer unit. I thought about remedying it with heat shrink tubing but as it was right at the base of the unit, it was difficult to reinforce and remedy the situation. There wasn't much I could do about it so I had to get a new unit.



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Aug 23, 2014 21:40 |  #2448

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handholding.... i'm comparing to know if i don't regret switching. while i still have time to return the sony. but considering i have flexibility in FL and the ability to AF, i think the sony wins.

f2.8 against and f4 + 50mm more FL bokeh comparison. i'm not looking at sharpness as both lenses may excel the same. the Sigma is a macro lens too which is supposed to be sharper. ang also a prime.

Switching from Canon to Sony?

Well, i have no comment or anything to talk about it, it is your decision and sure we all respect it and understand it, but if i will talk about myself, i will never switch, i can do that with Nikon which they have Nikon D800 and they have D810 now and still Canon didn't show up with 30mp+, but i am sure one day Canon will be back to competition, then what, switching again?

I know i will not be like most members here, they keep switching because new generation of gear, going from Nikon to Canon, then from Canon to Sony, then from Sony to Fuji or vise versa, then from Sony back to Canon, i know it will be endless, that is why i never think of switching, instead, i keep brand with me, mostly glasses, bodies can be switched easily, because even with Canon i keep upgrading bodies, so it will not harm me at all if i keep Sony and Fuji gear and then buy newest Canon body that is on top of competition, but i will never switch between brands.


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Aug 23, 2014 21:56 |  #2449

Vinmunoz,

Comparisons were interesting but as you say shot at different times. The Sigma bokeh looks better at both focal lengths but then again they were taken at different times and with the Sigma you lose the zoom range. Just curious you say" have flexibility in FL and the ability to AF" - doesn't the Sigma 150 auto focus?

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Aug 23, 2014 22:01 |  #2450

Sorry, i didn't comment on it, Sigma bokeh is better and i liked that shots from Sigma, so if i will have both of those lenses then i will go with Sigma because it is sharper and giving me better bokeh, any zoom can give that flexibility in FL, but i also ask as Jim, isn't that Sigma AF with your Sony?


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Aug 23, 2014 22:04 |  #2451

thanks Jim... AF with an adapter is non usable IMO. It's a canon mount.

Tareq i switched from Canon 5D Mark III with no regrets. Even if I'm coming from Nikon. Also, I don't have the $$$ leverage to have more bodies. I have to sell one to own one. If I have the $$$, i will never sell.

other angle, same time. F4 200mm but farther and brighter background. I will maybe go with technique to make my sony lens shots to have creamier bokeh.

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Aug 23, 2014 22:18 |  #2452

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thanks Jim... AF with an adapter is non usable IMO. It's a canon mount.

Tareq i switched from Canon 5D Mark III with no regrets. Even if I'm coming from Nikon. Also, I don't have the $$$ leverage to have more bodies. I have to sell one to own one. If I have the $$$, i will never sell.

other angle, same time. F4 200mm but farther and brighter background. I will maybe go with technique to make my sony lens shots to have creamier bokeh.

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- Ok, agree about AF with adapter, not big help for sure compared to FE.

- I understand, and i thought about it, budget limitation is always there, well, i may be lucky for a while, but we don't have that return policy and can't find much of used gear in my area, so my only option or 2 is to buy brand new locally or only use the net to buy, and in all cases, buying online is not much saving as well, here many selling gear at much higher prices than online used, so you are lucky too to test gear before you decide to buy one or not.

Well, stop showing those comparisons, the lens is just great and no need to put doubts to make those tests, i always buy without thinking about tests or doubts, i can't buy all or every lens as well, but when i buy something, i will already know it is the one i need/want no matter what, even if it have issues then it is either me or the defect part, but not the lens/body quality itself, i can imagine if you buy medium format with 60mp and have issues you will return back immediately to buy another, because you know it is not the fault of the body itself, and if you don't trust it at all then you will never buy it first place or return for replacement as well.

That is why i said i will not buy FE 70-200 or 16-35, unless they bring 70-200 f2.8 or 16-35 2.8 FE version then i will think again, i became a manual shooter more recently so i will not just buy FE because its AF, believe me, i have FE 55mm and it is still bothering me in focus, it is faster than adapter Canon lenses, but never fast at all as any of Canon lenses on Canon bodies, so i am still under slow AF compared to Canon AF.


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Aug 23, 2014 22:25 |  #2453

Tareq, my postings may not be of help to you. but might be for others. I understand your area. I worked in Saudi Arabia for 8 years. Even worst than U.A.E.

here's a couple more later in the afternoon after sunset.... no crop F4 at 200mm
big difference in just an hour and a half difference.

Although the Sigma is f2.8, the sony is longer so compression is better. The reason i thought that they might give me identical bokeh.

sharpness of the sony70-200 though looks like a prime lens. really sharp IMO. maybe because it's F4

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Aug 23, 2014 22:53 |  #2454

Bokeh looks good in these example. While it's nice to have a few faster lens f4 is fine for most things. When I shot Canon more often than not the 24-105 f4 was glued to my 5D2 and then 5D3.The 70-200 is looking good. I just ordered the Sony LA-EA4 and the Sony 85 2.8 for portrait work the other day but maybe I should have gone with the 70-200. However the 85 will be much lighter to use for extended periods.

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Aug 23, 2014 22:57 |  #2455

goodluck on your decision. you can never go wrong either.


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Aug 23, 2014 23:20 |  #2456

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Switching from Canon to Sony?

Well, i have no comment or anything to talk about it, it is your decision and sure we all respect it and understand it, but if i will talk about myself, i will never switch, i can do that with Nikon which they have Nikon D800 and they have D810 now and still Canon didn't show up with 30mp+, but i am sure one day Canon will be back to competition, then what, switching again?

Switch? Not for me either.
You're taking the 24-70mm II 2.8 out of my cold dead hands, it's a magical lens with vivid colours and super high contrast. I'm not giving it up. The reason I got a a7R is to use Canon's high quality glass on a 36MP 14EV DR sensor. Canon's glass for the most part is superior to both Nikon's and Sony's. The 24-70mm II 2.8, 70-200mm II 2.8 and TS-E 24mm are the best lens of their type anyone makes, and I wanted to put a great sensor behind them. An area where Canon is woefully behind the competition.
But would I give up the a7R if Canon came out with a better sensor? No to that either, nobody else makes such a light and compact full frame body, with so many options from DSLR to rangefinder lenses.
However, it's also not a 5D Mark III replacement. To handle a 70-200mm 2.8 you need an ergonomic camera with a big grip, you also need a fast AF system.


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Aug 23, 2014 23:35 |  #2457

Our needs may not be the same as others needs. For me the A7R is more than adequate. I used to own a 5D3 with a 70-200 f2.8. I know what you guys meant. I know the ergonomic and AF difference. But then again for my needs, i'm fine. Ergonomic for me though is no longer an issue. I'm kinda use to the A7R now.


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Aug 23, 2014 23:35 |  #2458

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Switch? Not for me either.
You're taking the 24-70mm II 2.8 out of my cold dead hands, it's a magical lens with vivid colours and super high contrast. I'm not giving it up. The reason I got a a7R is to use Canon's high quality glass on a 36MP 14EV DR sensor. Canon's glass for the most part is superior to both Nikon's and Sony's. The 24-70mm II 2.8, 70-200mm II 2.8 and TS-E 24mm are the best lens of their type anyone makes, and I wanted to put a great sensor behind them. An area where Canon is woefully behind the competition.
But would I give up the a7R if Canon came out with a better sensor? No to that either, nobody else makes such a light and compact full frame body, with so many options from DSLR to rangefinder lenses.
However, it's also not a 5D Mark III replacement. To handle a 70-200mm 2.8 you need an ergonomic camera with a big grip, you also need a fast AF system.

Exactly same my points, but i am very sorry and i apologize about because i always forget it, it is because many here don't have budget to buy many things or brands, so they switch in most cases.

I agree, i bought that Sony for its high mp and better DR and light body, and it will be my always choice for landscape and outdoor cityscape, and using my Canon TS-E, i couldn't be happier. Also i will agree that even if Canon brought a new body with 36mp i will not give up that Sony, i could buy Nikon 36mp body even before that Sony did, but i didn't want to have another DSLR and another brand which means another gear to buy such as glasses and accessories, but i liked that Sony A7 series gave us the option to use all or many glasses brands which is a big big plus too.


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Aug 23, 2014 23:38 |  #2459

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Our needs may not be the same as others needs. For me the A7R is more than adequate. I used to own a 5D3 with a 70-200 f2.8. I know what you guys meant. I know the ergonomic and AF difference. But then again for my needs, i'm fine. Ergonomic for me though is no longer an issue. I'm kinda use to the A7R now.

Understood, respect that, and i really respect Sony now because they brought this series of cameras, it changed the game a bit, still i have my Canon thought, but you are free to switch completely or partially, it is your decision and situations.


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Aug 24, 2014 00:00 |  #2460

So my day to day kit has been the 6D+50L +135L...... well I'm trying out a similar kit with the sony that weighs significantly less:

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nifty fifty + vivitar 135mm F2.8 konica mount.

I got the viv 135 konica because it was dirt cheap.... as in free. Seller sent me the wrong mount and let me keep it. IQ seems ok, not L level of course, but ok. I lose 1 stop with both lenses, but damn, it's so light. Will shoot this combo for the next few weeks.

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