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Anyone have a 6D & Rebel, and willing/able to post some comparison shots?

 
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Aug 24, 2014 21:53 |  #46

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17115531 (external link)
Bare in mind that photo is the oldest one, I've learned better processing and exposure techniques since then ;)

lol, that skill gap is exactly what prompted the original question. I kept wondering if the typical 6D shot tended to be better primarily because of the equipment, because it attracts more experienced photographers, and/or as pointed out earlier, it's more flexible in post. Or more to the point... will buying new stuff improve my images and/or my keeper rate enough to be worth it?? (oh please let the answer be yes!) Thanks for posting the shots :)


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Aug 24, 2014 21:58 |  #47

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17115643 (external link)
That aspect doesn't get mentioned because that aspect isn't necessarily true.

It's true for most all entry level crop DSLRs vs FF DSLRs. The smaller viewfinders on Rebels and the Nikon 3000 and 5000 series is one of the first things I notice when handling them.


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Aug 24, 2014 22:06 |  #48

chight wrote in post #17115644 (external link)
Or more to the point... will buying new stuff improve my images and/or my keeper rate enough to be worth it?? (oh please let the answer be yes!)

Maybe, but it depends on what you are going for. Aside from improvements in image quality, the 6D will give you better low light performance, whereas cameras like the 5D3 will give you amazing AF for fast action photography/great low light performance, etc.


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Aug 24, 2014 22:42 |  #49

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The worst comparison ever !!
If there is one guy on the planet you should never trust in photography it's Ken Rockwell !!

I agree those comparison shots were awful, but did you see the part where KR called the 5D3 the "best DSLR in the world"? I thought the man would never admit that a current-gen Canon SLR was even acceptable. Where's the part where he bemoans the placement of the "Q" button or live view switch?


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Aug 24, 2014 22:45 |  #50
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jt354 wrote in post #17115702 (external link)
I agree those comparison shots were awful, but did you see the part where KR called the 5D3 the "best DSLR in the world"? I thought the man would never admit that a current-gen Canon SLR was even acceptable. Where's the part where he bemoans the placement of the "Q" button or live view switch?

KR has been touting the virtues of Canon for quite some time. I think it started right around the time Canon outbid Nikon to be mentioned in his gibberish.


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Aug 25, 2014 00:33 |  #51

Here you go: Same location, 6D, SL1, and a smaller sensor camera thrown in for fun (RX-100):

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Aug 25, 2014 00:53 |  #52

I'll quests
1...6d
2....rx100
3...sl1


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Aug 25, 2014 00:59 as a reply to  @ post 17115039 |  #53

Would you evaluate a camera's performance based on down-sized, down-rezzed shots you saw on the web? What, exactly, would be the point of posting any photos in this thread?[/QUOTE]

Have you not heard of a link? Durrrrrrrr.


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Aug 25, 2014 01:00 |  #54

davesrose wrote in post #17115650 (external link)
It's true for most all entry level crop DSLRs vs FF DSLRs. The smaller viewfinders on Rebels and the Nikon 3000 and 5000 series is one of the first things I notice when handling them.

That's not a fair comparison though. There's no FF rebel, a more fair comparison would be a 70D or 7D, both of which have VF's that are just as large as an FF DSLR.


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Aug 25, 2014 02:48 |  #55

Feel free to check my flickr , I have T3 and 6D picture inside, I only use DPP for minimal PP.
some people can see the different even post in the Facebook. My friend know I already upgrade from T3 to 6D when I post picture in Facebook, I never told him I had plan to change camera. Before that I also very difficult to tell the different, but know I can spot the picture shoot with crop or full frame on Facebook that post by same person.


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Aug 25, 2014 06:15 |  #56

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17115837 (external link)
That's not a fair comparison though. There's no FF rebel, a more fair comparison would be a 70D or 7D, both of which have VF's that are just as large as an FF DSLR.

But the OP and others are wondering what the difference is between a Rebel (or other entry DSLRs) vs a FF. The size of viewfinder is an apparent difference. And even then, the 5DmkII has a 20% larger viewfinder then a 70D.

http://www.neocamera.c​om/article/viewfinder_​sizes (external link)


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Aug 25, 2014 06:58 |  #57

Ha ha ha. I'll consider it homework for tomorrows ride. I'll take my 6D & EOS M with me, and shoot the same scene at equivalent FOV with both cameras, & post up the results. As long as it's not raining.




  
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Aug 25, 2014 08:46 |  #58

Given the OPs list a page or two back, I think she will love FF. I notice smoother, silky transitions in tones and colors that would be evident in her style of photography. She asked for better low light performance - focusing and IQ - I believe she will see it.

And not mentioned, since long distance shooting doesn't seem to be an issue, she will enjoy the 60% bump up in sharpness. Would be noticeable on bigger enlargements that perhaps her clients order.


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Aug 25, 2014 10:24 |  #59

chight wrote in post #17115644 (external link)
lol, that skill gap is exactly what prompted the original question. I kept wondering if the typical 6D shot tended to be better primarily because of the equipment, because it attracts more experienced photographers, and/or as pointed out earlier, it's more flexible in post. Or more to the point... will buying new stuff improve my images and/or my keeper rate enough to be worth it?? (oh please let the answer be yes!) Thanks for posting the shots :)

The answer is yes to all!

I don't have the 6D but have the 5D3 and Rebel T2i. The 5D3 info below can be interchanged with the 6D.

For me a very significant feature going from a Rebel to my 5D3 is the control wheel on back of the camera ( the 6D has a control wheel also ). I shoot in manual mode 95% of the time and controlling the exposure with the back and top control wheels without pressing an extra button as with the Rebel really makes shooting smoother and faster.

I also have a T2i that has the 7D imaging chip ( more or less ), image quality is excellent and for some reason when I open the shadows four stops in Lightroom it doesn't have any banding or cross hatching. I got lucky and never selling it. Anyway it's a great camera but since I usually shoot with a fairly wide open aperture, focus is critical and not all my lenses are dead on with the Rebel. That's where Auto Focus Micro Adjustment (AFMA) is needed and the 6D has it. All but one of my lenses needs AFMA on my 5D3.

In post production the need to tweak 5D3 images is a lot less than the Rebel or my 50D.

Compared to the Rebel, the 5D3 images hold up to crop-ability much better.

When shooting weddings I'm at 3200/6400 a lot. I "overexpose" manually by a stop and the images have very little noise.

I haven't compared the highlight recovery between Rebel and 5D3 images but I'm super impressed with the 5D3 files.


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Aug 25, 2014 11:56 |  #60

Also I'd recommend buying a 6D refurbished directly from Canon. My 5D3 is a refurbished and only had 5 exposures on it and has been working great for over a year. Not one problem.

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