I brought a refurb 5D3 from Canon about a year and a half ago, and paid $2.6k after tax, that's like $1k off from brand new. I didn't check the shutter count and I wouldn't care unless it misbehave. That said, buying a refurb 7D now is kinda a big mistake. 7D came out in late 2009, so we are talking about buying a camera that could have been abused for 5 years. When I brought mine, at most it would have taken heavy use for one year. So, people may want to take that into consideration. As far as buying from B&H is concern, I wouldn't trust buying used from them. I recently brought a used tripod with the item condition of 9+, that's near perfect if you think about it. Well, the problem is when I got it, it's broken. I'm not talking about missing accessories(although one could say certain item missing means the tripod cannot fully function to the spec listed), but broken as in they didn't check it, and simply rated the item condition as 9+. One of the tripod leg wouldn't when extend, it didn't stop, and just fall off, this isn't something broken via shipping. I would agree that I would prefer the warranty and return period is longer for Canon, but for me I could actually drive to Irvine center the next business day if needed be.