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Sep 08, 2014 20:30 |  #1

Not sure where this fits best in the forum, so I put it here.

My son just started middle school and while being stuck in drop off/pick up traffic I've twice now seen an old man behaving strangely. First he stood there with a small dog/puppy, he stood in a flower bed and just looked odd, like the proverbial "want some candy, little girl?" guy.

Today I saw him standing a bit back in the shade under a tree, taking photos of girls walking home after school. When he saw me he put his camera down quickly. This does not seem like grampa waiting for his grand child at all. It might be nothing, but it had the vibe of something off to me.

Now, it's perfectly legal to do what he does (if it is indeed what I think he does) but it's still creepy and not right IMO.

I tried to take a photo of him once I came out of the pickup loop, but he had left. I will certainly document him next time.

What would you do in this situation? I know it's one of those "we can't do something until he does something" situations but I'd have a serious problem with some old guy taking photos of my girl in short summer outfits.

I will send a note to the principal, the school certainly needs to know, and I'll make my friends aware as well.

Not the first time I saw something like this, once caught an other old guy taking photos of kids on the playground and he was there alone. Once I took a picture of him with my big white lens he took off rather quickly. And an other time I caught a guy at safeway peeking up women's skirts at check out, with a small mirror he had put into his shopping basket. That was before camera phones. I had him thrown out of the store.

Any ideas on how to deal with this, if it's really a creep into 12 year old girls in shorts and skirts?


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Sep 08, 2014 20:39 |  #2

Inform the local police as well as the school. Better to have them check it out and it's nothing than to leave them out and he ends up hurting some kid.


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Sep 08, 2014 20:43 |  #3

Likely using or trying to use dog as bait for a grab and run. I would have called cops.


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Sep 08, 2014 22:03 |  #4

I'll alert the principal, but I had the same impression with the little dog. Also told other parents to be on the look out and document if they see him.


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Sep 08, 2014 22:23 |  #5

Yes. Please call the cops next time and alert the school. Wow you run into these guys a lot. Or you're more aware than the next. Good keeping an eye out.



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Sep 08, 2014 23:01 |  #6

Keep trying to get photos that show his face clearly enough for ID. Make notes of other aspects for a description: height, any visible tattoos, and all that. Give all this to your contact at the school.


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Sep 09, 2014 09:57 |  #7

Call the police, from your description its possible he is registered and not allowed near schools.




  
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Sep 09, 2014 12:18 |  #8

My first thought was to wonder what the heck the school dress code is that would allow such short skirts that a guy would be standing there to take photos of them.

I would inform the school nd let them deal with the situation. if they feel that the police are an appropriate action then let them do it. if they feel that school security can handle the situation then let them do it.




  
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Sep 09, 2014 12:21 |  #9

I did send an e-mail to the principal. A friend of mine also saw him, "I've seen that guy!!! He has a black little dog. I assumed he lived across the street. I noticed that he was in the bushes and acting weird. I didn't see a camera." So it's not just me. I'll set up my phone as dashboard camera from now on, don't want to be too obvious (never know if he's also a gun nut or decides to follow me home etc). Just didn't feel right, not like a grandparent waiting, more like a guy lurking around. I checked the sex offender database for my close area, only three and not him, but that doesn't mean he travels to different schools etc.


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Sep 09, 2014 12:45 |  #10

apparently he's been doing that for years, according to an other mom. He parks his little dog on the sidewalk and holds the leash from behind a trash can, standing there smoking. And he's taking photos now (or for years?). I'm very much not ok with that, but fear nothing can be done. But the idea of my daughter ending up on his computer screen is far from entertaining.


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Sep 09, 2014 12:55 |  #11

rick_reno wrote in post #17144047 (external link)
Call the police, from your description its possible he is registered and not allowed near schools.

I would do the same but there is a boatload of others that would think nothing is wrong with this behavior.

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Sep 09, 2014 14:20 |  #12

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My first thought was to wonder what the heck the school dress code is that would allow such short skirts that a guy would be standing there to take photos of them.

You honestly think it's the school's dress code that's to blame for situations such as this?


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Sep 09, 2014 14:33 |  #13

yeah, not clear what that has to do with it. Dress code is simple and straight forward, shorts/skirts must at least be as long as where the tip of your thumb is when your arm hangs down, no spaghetti straps, etc. But that's besides the point, he's a slimy cretin. Unfortunately I doubt something can be done, maybe parents need to mobilize and block his view to make him go away. A ring of dads staring at him, something like that. No word back from the school yet.


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Sep 09, 2014 14:53 |  #14

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yeah, not clear what that has to do with it. Dress code is simple and straight forward, shorts/skirts must at least be as long as where the tip of your thumb is when your arm hangs down, no spaghetti straps, etc. But that's besides the point, he's a slimy cretin. Unfortunately I doubt something can be done, maybe parents need to mobilize and block his view to make him go away. A ring of dads staring at him, something like that. No word back from the school yet.

Exactly. Could we excuse the same man acting the same way at a public pool? "I mean, the girls are dressed provocatively." It's that type of thinking (and, as a less hyperbolic example, statements like the comment I quoted) that shifts the focus from the real problem in situations like this.

Have you checked you local predator database? Many of them have a booking photos. Perhaps if he's listed he is actually breaking the law by being within a certain distance of a school. It's a long shot, but probably worth checking out.


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Sep 09, 2014 14:56 |  #15

I looked just locally to my zip code, only 3 listed. Might expand that once I hear back from the principal and other parents. Or just e-mail a pic to the police.


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