Canon 7D MkII specs confirmed

gjl711 wrote in post #17148038
I think the interesting spec is max ISO 16000. Has base ISO been increased to 125 or lowered to 75? A good sign that this may be a totally new sensor.

that and the IR Sensor, what ever that may be. if it's sensor driven or otherwise.

Thanks for adding on/answering on the fabrication process, I can never remember the details on that, just that it's an old process

myphotographic wrote in post #17148036
While people will be disappointed it doesn't herald a sensor revolution, I reckon there is enough there now to put the 7D line clearly back on top of the APS-C tree. But I'm not sure there's sufficient improvement to keep it relevant until September 2019 for a 7DIII.

Top of the tree only if you don't care too much about image quality, and just want the best AF and other features available on a crop body.

That's only because Nikon hasn't updated the D300s since 2009, and doesn't look like it will do so any time soon.

Where image quality matters, I'd take the Sony/Nikon 24MP APS-C sensor over Canon's 20.2MP sensor any day.

RWatkins wrote in post #17148068
Given the rehashed 70D sensor, this better not be over 2K.

I have posted this in the past, so if it is the 70D sensor with a few tweaks, then I think the price has to fall down the evolutionary line in my diagram. Thus the 80D will then undoubtedly have something newer sensor-wise if the 7D2 doesn't. There are only 2 more xxD models that can be offered before the numbering has to radically change.

travisvwright wrote in post #17147875
There have been rumors some companies may soon come up with a slightly-magic complicated processes they put in that could potentially allow the user a select-able option that would control whether the wifi was on or not.

im still laughing

travisvwright wrote in post #17148012
There have been rumors some companies may soon come up with a slightly-magic complicated processes they put in that could potentially allow the user a select-able option that would control whether the GPS was on or not.

oh man your killing me

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17148064
It only costs about $40 to add remote wifi to the camera, even if it means adding a small attachment. For the casual buyer though, it would be disappointing. Touchscreen isn't necessary, but wifi is more so.

Of course all these are not "necessary", that's why they're called "wants".

Canon can spend $3 to add a wifi module like a billion smartphones already do.
It's not only a smart move, it makes Canon a bit more competitive and "future-proof".
Whether you like it or not, it's the future.
If you don't like it, don't use it.

andrikos wrote in post #17148045
BTW, all my above minor spec wants are moot if the sensor is not significantly upgraded DR/ISO wise.

This right here...

andrikos wrote in post #17148113
Of course all these are not "necessary", that's why they're called "wants".

Canon can spend $3 to add a wifi module like a billion smartphones already do.
It's not only a smart move, it makes Canon a bit more competitive and "future-proof".
Whether you like it or not, it's the future.
If you don't like it, don't use it.

It is no different than anything else with different model lines, they all off upgrades or feature packages that you pay for. Canon markets their cameras much like vehicles, if you want a feature set, you have to buy the upgraded model, whatever that is. Whether you like it or not, that is way the market works today in many areas.

We have been down this road of discussions in the past about new models and their announcements, this is no different. This camera will sell very well, those that want a better build and better AF system with more FPS will buy the 7D2 over the 70D. If the ISO performance is better than the 70D, that will solidify those sales. I just wait for the reviews to see how well this system works out. I am disappointed over lack of wifi, but I can make due, I am a bit more concerned about how the resolution is nothing more than what the 70D had, and that wasn't even much a bump over the 5 year old 7D classic. I doubt that the ISO will be that much better either if there was no sensor changes. Those 2 things will cause me some pause. I will just spend $500-700 more and go back to a 1D4 probably.

Sensor question: Canon specs the 70D at a max ISO of 12800, so if the 7D II is rated up to 16000, is it therefore a new sensor? Or is there another way to increase the rated ISO of the sensor, if they are indeed using the exact same 70D sensor?

BG Ed wrote in post #17148239
Sensor question: Canon specs the 70D at a max ISO of 12800, so if the 7D II is rated up to 16000, is it therefore a new sensor? Or is there another way to increase the rated ISO of the sensor, if they are indeed using the exact same 70D sensor?

It can be done in software, or in off-sensor hardware.

Also, any change to the sensor makes it a 'new sensor', regardless of whether it improves image quality, reduces production cost, reduces heat production or power consumption or does something else altogether. A 'new sensor' isn't necessarily any better.

The 7D, 60D and a long line of Rebels all had 'new' 18MP sensors. They all produced the same image quality.

Shadowblade wrote in post #17148300
It can be done in software, or in off-sensor hardware....

Usually when it is done is software, it's stated as such like the 70D being 100-12500 expanded to 25k.

I think 7DM2 will be a runaway success for Canon. you get the 65-point-all-cross AF system from $6000 1DX in a $1799 camera. And by the way these points will probably cover the entire viewfinder/sensor because it is a crop view. So you will even be able to track by the corner of a screen. Times 10 frames per second. Couple that with the fastest af on planet in Canon USM lenses plus largest selection of lenses, and you have the camera with the best AF on planet for $1799. You can use it for any sports shooting, from kids to (outside) pro sports.

on the down side, with the release of the 7dii, what will legions of canon fans have to talk about?

September 22, 2014: 8d specifications leaked!

scottsoutter wrote in post #17148333
on the down side, with the release of the 7dii, what will legions of canon fans have to talk about?

September 22, 2014: 8d specifications leaked!

there is always an illusive 'high mp' body

mrgooch wrote in post #17147790
It certainly will interest first time buyers.

It will interest a lot of other buyerss too. For example, I used to own a Canon 7D and then I sold it when I went full-frame. Now, a Canon 7D Mark II will be an awesome compliment to my existing set-up and needs. The extra reach of the crop sensor will be very handy for my bird photography and the 10 fps will be awesome for sports and action photography. Simply put, it will be a great tool to add to my arsenal of gear. I suspect many others will find the same usefulness too.

Bryan