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Sep 11, 2014 16:47 |  #76

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on the down side, with the release of the 7dii, what will legions of canon fans have to talk about?

EF100-400 mk II chat will keep us going for another ten years...


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Sep 11, 2014 17:05 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #77

Hmm a bit disappointing, so I can cross that off my Christmas list.


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Sep 11, 2014 17:16 |  #78

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EF100-400 mk II chat will keep us going for another ten years...

And so will the 35L Mark II...

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Sep 11, 2014 17:27 as a reply to  @ artyman's post |  #79

Don't write it off yet. Think about it, a 70D quality APS-C sensor with 1DX AF system? Sounds pretty sweet to me. Of course, the price will be the real decider.




  
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Sep 11, 2014 17:30 |  #80

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Don't write it off yet. Think about it, a 70D quality APS-C sensor with 1DX AF system? Sounds pretty sweet to me. Of course, the price will be the real decider.

Yeah, Canon always prices their products geared towards the masses so I'm sure it will come in as cheap as possible.


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Sep 11, 2014 17:43 |  #81

Argh... as many have mentioned, 7Dii looks to be somewhat feature rich but sensor poor. If true, this could be my biggest disappoint in my sizable collection of gears since 2009 when I bought my original 7D. Over the last 5 years, sensor technology has advanced so much that even 4/3 sensors have out performed the latest Canon's APS-C sensors.

Hell... even Apple's iphone 6 is touting how good their new camera is.


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Sep 11, 2014 17:45 |  #82

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Not sure if it's mentioned on the "confirmed" but, I would definitely like a 6D-like -3EV sensitive center focus point and USB3.

-3 is not enough, Sony A7s has -4. Lets get -5 :lol::lol:


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Sep 11, 2014 17:47 |  #83

That´s really bad! it doesn´t have a sensor tech from Hubble space telescope as Canon promised! what a waste, i feel cheated waiting that long for miracle, it is almost as bad as that crappy toy 70D and not that much better than that old rusty 7D, my photography potencial is so limited now, how can i even take good photos, all my photos are ugly, noisy and certainly very soft! even instagram heavy filters will probably look very lame...
what´s the point taking pictures with less camera than D810 today.... life is over.
etc,etc,etc... ehm...



sigh... seriously... I think most people should expect that. There is currently very little space for improvement in sensor/noise ratio wise regarding crop cameras, i can´t imagine it could be any better on current tech, even 70D is very capable... 7DmkII will be probably even better than 70D. I remember huge difference between old 1dsmkII and 300D... the leap will never be the same without new sensor technology. Thanks god.


But no, that obsession with noise levels and IQ is still there, even if people need to look at 200% crops. People make fantasies about richer and more vivid colors, super extra sharpness... and Canon is super happy because that lust helps and pushes all users to buy new expensive cameras..

This aspect of photography is one of the worst - not trying to take wonderful pictures and precious moments, of course perfectly focused with amazing composition and colors, that´s why most people started with photography i believe.. everything just shrinked to technical obsession having top line teoretical IQ, which most people can´t reach, because they shoot jpegs, not print large or using super heavy postprocessing, which is destroying all resolved details.


When i bought 1DSmkII few months after my first DSLR 300D, i was hoping for easy personal improvement, because my pictures was super crappy... But i realized that my lack of skill is just thick ugly unremovable filter on top of my lens and without my effort, no equipment help me to improve my photos by huge margin... I sold my 1dsmkII, after years i bought 600D to start over.


This hysteria around 7DmkII release just confirmed my greatest fear...

7DmkII looks really magnificent and has exactly these features i was expecting from top line camera - super advanced AF system, which actually help capturing these super rare precious moments and very decent, almost top IQ.


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Sep 11, 2014 17:50 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #84

It says all metal body, but has GPS. Does this mean it will have a plastic/composite top piece?


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Sep 11, 2014 18:02 |  #85

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Yeah, Canon always prices their products geared towards the masses so I'm sure it will come in as cheap as possible.

Haha. Good one.


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Sep 11, 2014 18:07 |  #86

palad1n wrote in post #17148809 (external link)
That´s really bad! it doesn´t have a sensor tech from Hubble space telescope as Canon promised! what a waste, i feel cheated waiting that long for miracle, it is almost as bad as that crappy toy 70D and not that much better than that old rusty 7D, my photography potencial is so limited now, how can i even take good photos, all my photos are ugly, noisy and certainly very soft! even instagram heavy filters will probably look very lame...
what´s the point taking pictures with less camera than D810 today.... life is over.
etc,etc,etc... ehm...



sigh... seriously... I think most people should expect that. There is currently very little space for improvement in sensor/noise ratio wise regarding crop cameras, i can´t imagine it could be any better on current tech, even 70D is very capable... 7DmkII will be probably even better than 70D. I remember huge difference between old 1dsmkII and 300D... the leap will never be the same without new sensor technology. Thanks god.


But no, that obsession with noise levels and IQ is still there, even if people need to look at 200% crops. People make fantasies about richer and more vivid colors, super extra sharpness... and Canon is super happy because that lust helps and pushes all users to buy new expensive cameras..

This aspect of photography is one of the worst - not trying to take wonderful pictures and precious moments, of course perfectly focused with amazing composition and colors, that´s why most people started with photography i believe.. everything just shrinked to technical obsession having top line teoretical IQ, which most people can´t reach, because they shoot jpegs, not print large or using super heavy postprocessing, which is destroying all resolved details.


When i bought 1DSmkII few months after my first DSLR 300D, i was hoping for easy personal improvement, because my pictures was super crappy... But i realized that my lack of skill is just thick ugly unremovable filter on top of my lens and without my effort, no equipment help me to improve my photos by huge margin... I sold my 1dsmkII, after years i bought 600D to start over.


This hysteria around 7DmkII release just confirmed my greatest fear...

7DmkII looks really magnificent and has exactly these features i was expecting from top line camera - super advanced AF system, which actually help capturing these super rare precious moments and very decent, almost top IQ.

The trouble with this whole post is that you totally disregard whats happening in the rest of the industry.


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Sep 11, 2014 18:22 |  #87

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7DmkII looks really magnificent and has exactly these features i was expecting from top line camera - super advanced AF system, which actually help capturing these super rare precious moments and very decent, almost top IQ.

Oh please... give us some credit. Just last week I shot my 1DX and my 7D alternating shots depending on the focal length during a softball tournament. Even at ISO 400 in broad daylight, the difference in quality of the image was significant. If a sporting event was indoors, forgetaboutit. I know it's not a a fair comparison but it's fair that we hope the gap can be much closer.


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Sep 11, 2014 22:03 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #88

the "confimed specs" for the canon 7 d mark 11 on CR are looking very under whelming to me - a 20 .2 sensor is certainly a very small upgrade and ok a better af is good but its af now is pretty good on the 7 d mark 1 - if it afs at f 8 that would be handy but not enough to get me to buy one unless it says close to the $1K - $1.5 K fig which appears unlikely - its all looking a bit ho hum canon unless it comes out as a 1.3 /1.4 crop aka the previous 1d3 which will give it a jump up and maybe reignit some interest however the efs lenses may not suit
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Sep 11, 2014 22:23 |  #89

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- its all looking a bit ho hum canon unless it comes out as a 1.3 /1.4 crop aka the previous 1d3 which will give it a jump up and maybe reignit some interest however the efs lenses may not suit
cheers rob

Why would having a 1.3x sensor vs 1.6 change things?? I highly doubt the 7DmkII is going to be 1.3x. I've now seen a few postings that stated it would be nice if Canon introduced another 1.3x camera...but that seems very improbable. The sensor specs for the 7DmkII seem pretty good for a smaller sensor: decent ISO for a crop/ dual AF. Canon will keep it at the same tier as the 7D: the most high end crop camera. In the 1D series, there was the 1D vs 1Ds. One had slightly smaller sensor to get faster frame rate and shutter lag for sports, the other had full frame for higher resolution. Canon seems to have decisively merged the two into the 1DX series: slightly lower resolution FF that's just as fast for sports. To make a 7D a 1.3 sensor means it no longer supports EF-S: just seems improbable from a marketing standpoint.


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Sep 11, 2014 22:33 |  #90

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Why would having a 1.3x sensor vs 1.6 change things??

Aside from the obvious that one would take both EF and EF-S lens and the other only take EF lens. Which to me make no difference as all my current bodies and lens are FF or at least APS-H. Say a 20MP APS-C would have more crammed pixels than 20MP APS-H. So, there would be a high ISO lower noise benefit to the 1.3x crop sensor. We may even be looking at 1 stop difference here.




  
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