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Sep 09, 2014 10:23 as a reply to  @ post 17143432 |  #2191

Ended up grabbing an A7 + Kit lens on Sunday (I would still love to have the A7s). So far I'm very impressed. I'm coming from the Fuji X-Pro1/X-E1 camp, and although I loved my X-Pro +35 combo so much I sold it and kept the X-E1.

I'm still trying to decide on if I should keep the Sony (14 day return policy), so far I only got to shoot around my place, haven't taken it outside because I want to put a filter on the lens before I go out.

I love love love the peaking feature on the A7 when compared to the X-Pro/X-E1. Because I can make the picture profile to b&w, and change the peaking to red + High and WOW! What I would really like to do is to try my vintage lenses with this camera to see how quick the peaking is.

I feel that the focusing speed of the 28-70 locks on just as quickly as the X-E1+ Kit in good light. I normally use the centre focusing point because I'm used to having it on the 5DII. The real test however will be when I get the chance to shoot an event or people to see how it holds up during normal and low light conditions.

The EVF refresh rate is very slow on the X-Pro1/X-E1 which hampered my enjoyment of using manual focus and low light conditions. The native fuji lens with auto-focusing were just fine enough to do weddings.


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Sep 09, 2014 10:53 |  #2192

taemo wrote in post #17143431 (external link)
nice, will keep that in mind next time!

a mini battle of the 50's that I performed between 5 50s
Nokton 50mm 1.5 ASPH
Summilux-M 50mm 1.4 ASPH
Speedmaster 50mm 0.94
FD 50mm 1.4 SSC
FE Sonnar 55mm 1.8

these are at their widest apertures

the speedmaster is really apparent, but I think I'm giving up on that one. The weight is simply too much, and I'm fairly happy with the FDn 50mm 1.4.

If it weighed half as much, I'de pick it up immediately.


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Sep 09, 2014 13:05 |  #2193

it is big and heavy but not that cumbersome, still lighter than a Leica Noctilux and find that it balances nicely on the A7, the FD 85 1.2 and FD 135 2 felt front heavy compared to this.
didn't mind hiking 3-4KM with it and I'm thinking of making this my 50mm lens on the A7 now instead of the Nokton.
only thing I really dislike about this lens is the click-less aperture.

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Sep 09, 2014 14:20 |  #2194

damn, you must love 50mm more than I do lol.

not sure if I mentioned, but this dollar hood works nicely on the speedmaster: http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​4620e0fe85 (external link)

I'm using the FDn 50mm and I've read it's similar to the SSC, but smaller and lighter design. Has the coatings as well, but did away with the naming fad. Probably close to the size of the summilux.....

so, which one will you keep?


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Sep 10, 2014 09:12 |  #2195

Charlie wrote in post #17144510 (external link)
damn, you must love 50mm more than I do lol.

not sure if I mentioned, but this dollar hood works nicely on the speedmaster: http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​4620e0fe85 (external link)

I'm using the FDn 50mm and I've read it's similar to the SSC, but smaller and lighter design. Has the coatings as well, but did away with the naming fad. Probably close to the size of the summilux.....

so, which one will you keep?


thanks for the link Charlie! bought one of those hood for the Speedmaster.

the Sonnar and Summilux-M are my buddy's, just wanted to see how the Nokton and Speedmaster compared to those.

in conclusion the Summilux-M is probably one of the best 50mm out there other than the 50mm APO. No CA and sharp wide-open.

the Sonnar produces some nice colors and AF len, plus it's relatively lighter than the other 50s
only thing that I didn't like was when you step down the aperture on the camera, it steps it down on the lens as well making it very difficult to shoot portraits with strobes at f/8 or smaller. don't know if there's a setting to fix this and my buddy couldn't figure it out either, the DoF preview setting doesn't help either.

overall, I like the Nokton 50mm, it's a good lens that sits in between the ZM Planar and Summilux-M.
The FD SSC is not bad either and very comparable to the Nokton for 1/10th of the price.

I initially bought the Speedmaster for our Vegas trip this October then sell it afterwards but I might just keep it for portraits and when I need f/0.95


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Sep 10, 2014 13:15 |  #2196

^those 50's are all good but I think for the money i'm gonna go for the Sony 55mm at the moment and just get an adaptor for my canon FD 50mm 1.4 for days i feel like manually focusing.


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Sep 11, 2014 07:01 |  #2197

Hi folks. I have a few questions regarding the A7.

  • How is the EVF of the A7 compared to the EVF of the Fuji X-T1 in terms of lag in good light/lag in low light/size/refresh rate/overall quality?
  • Can focus peaking and zooming in on the active AF point also be done and seen in the EVF itself?
  • How accurate is focus peaking (both when not zoomed in and when zoomed in on the image in the EVF)? Especially in combination with Canon EF lenses (e.g. my EF 70-200mm F/4L IS USM).
  • How is the AF of the A7 compared to the AF of the Fuji X-T1?
  • How good is the Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 compared to the Fuji XF 35mm F/1.4 R (center sharpness/edge sharpness/color rendition/bokeh/focus speed...)?
  • Can I use my Canon version Pocketwizard MiniTT1 and FlexTT5 (in basic trigger mode) with the A7? If so, which flash sync speed will I get? Can I also use this Pocketwizard setup when a Canon EF lens is attached using a Metabones Smart Adapter Mark IV?
  • Is AF on the A7 accurate when using native lenses and shooting rather stationary subjects? Because I've read some complaints about this (while there are no complaints about the AF accuracy of the X-T1).

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Sep 11, 2014 10:13 |  #2198

jocau wrote in post #17147688 (external link)
Hi folks. I have a few questions regarding the A7.

  • How is the EVF of the A7 compared to the EVF of the Fuji X-T1 in terms of lag in good light/lag in low light/size/refresh rate/overall quality?
  • Can focus peaking and zooming in on the active AF point also be done and seen in the EVF itself?
  • How accurate is focus peaking (both when not zoomed in and when zoomed in on the image in the EVF)? Especially in combination with Canon EF lenses (e.g. my EF 70-200mm F/4L IS USM).
  • How is the AF of the A7 compared to the AF of the Fuji X-T1?
  • How good is the Sony/Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 compared to the Fuji XF 35mm F/1.4 R (center sharpness/edge sharpness/color rendition/bokeh/focus speed...)?
  • Can I use my Canon version Pocketwizard MiniTT1 and FlexTT5 (in basic trigger mode) with the A7? If so, which flash sync speed will I get? Can I also use this Pocketwizard setup when a Canon EF lens is attached using a Metabones Smart Adapter Mark IV?
  • Is AF on the A7 accurate when using native lenses and shooting rather stationary subjects? Because I've read some complaints about this (while there are no complaints about the AF accuracy of the X-T1).

1- Sony is as good as the xt1 I find
2- You can magnify a selected point either in the evf or LCD whilst peaking. You can't get it in a box at the same time as seeing the whole image like you can with the xt1, it's either or with the sony
3- I find focus peaking hard to nail at f/2 on my 135L. It's easy once magnified though. Not so good if your target is a fast moving child though. At f/4 it will be easier I imagine as a wider DOF
4- The AF on the sony is as quick as the xt1 if using native lenses
5- The fe55 lens blows the XF23, XF56 out the water. I haven't used the XF35 though. The fe55 is sharper wide open than my 35art was
6- I use the same off camera flash and triggers as I did on my 5d2. Can't comment on the ones you have mentioned though
7- Have not encountered a problem yet with native lenses and AF (I've only used the fe55 though)

I just sold my xt1 and lenses and moved to the sony a7r and don't regret it one bit. The XT1 sensor is seriously lacking compared to the sony alpha


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Sep 11, 2014 10:31 |  #2199

Anyone using the battery grip for extra power and shooting comfort?

I rarely shoot in portraits or portrait aspect, so mainly I'm looking to reduce battery change-outs and maybe improve general handheld shooting comfort. Also, the extra weight might assist in steadier handheld shots (I can shoot much steadier on the heavy 5D III than I can with the a7 or a7R).

Curious to everyone's thoughts about the usefulness of the grip.


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Sep 11, 2014 10:46 |  #2200

David Arbogast wrote in post #17147981 (external link)
Anyone using the battery grip for extra power and shooting comfort?

I rarely shoot in portraits or portrait aspect, so mainly I'm looking to reduce battery change-outs and maybe improve general handheld shooting comfort. Also, the extra weight might assist in steadier handheld shots (I can shoot much steadier on the heavy 5D III than I can with the a7 or a7R).

Curious to everyone's thoughts about the usefulness of the grip.

Mine is still in the box unopened :lol:


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Sep 11, 2014 13:00 |  #2201

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Mine is still in the box unopened :lol:

:lol:


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Sep 11, 2014 17:29 |  #2202

David Arbogast wrote in post #17147981 (external link)
Anyone using the battery grip for extra power and shooting comfort?

I rarely shoot in portraits or portrait aspect, so mainly I'm looking to reduce battery change-outs and maybe improve general handheld shooting comfort. Also, the extra weight might assist in steadier handheld shots (I can shoot much steadier on the heavy 5D III than I can with the a7 or a7R).

Curious to everyone's thoughts about the usefulness of the grip.

The grip kind of defeats the point of the camera, might as well get a Nikon d800e.
It's easier to change batteries, they're small and light.
Although I suppose it will act as a good damper against shutter vibrations.


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Sep 11, 2014 18:48 |  #2203

David Arbogast wrote in post #17147981 (external link)
Anyone using the battery grip for extra power and shooting comfort?

I rarely shoot in portraits or portrait aspect, so mainly I'm looking to reduce battery change-outs and maybe improve general handheld shooting comfort. Also, the extra weight might assist in steadier handheld shots (I can shoot much steadier on the heavy 5D III than I can with the a7 or a7R).

Curious to everyone's thoughts about the usefulness of the grip.

vipergts831 wrote in post #17148002 (external link)
Mine is still in the box unopened :lol:

^5, me too! :P

Honestly David, I have no use for it even when I shot some events. I rather change the battery than have the extra extension. I'm sure if you are using heavy lenses then it would be a good use. I'm just using lightweights at the moment.

on the d800 with the 24-70 though, yes! must have grip for comfort and balance :P




  
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Sep 13, 2014 16:14 |  #2204

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Sep 13, 2014 16:18 |  #2205

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