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Sep 12, 2014 11:00 |  #121

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Sep 12, 2014 11:02 |  #122

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No matter what Canon are up to. They really need to get their finger out with the drip feeding carry on. Nikon D750, FF camera with crop mode, 6.5fps and the best bit, a flippy screen (kidding on the last one) but Nikon have released three new FF cameras and Canon are still pissing about trying to replace the 7D. The only thing saving Canon's butt cheeks is their lenses.

Starting to think Apple and Canon are the same company.

Sooo true!!! If they are using the 70D's sensor and it's only 1/3 stop better than the 7D's that's so pathetic-5 years of waiting and that's the best they can do??? I'm liking Nikon more and more.


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Sep 12, 2014 11:04 |  #123

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Sooo true!!! If they are using the 70D's sensor and it's only 1/3 stop better than the 7D's that's so pathetic-5 years of waiting and that's the best they can do??? I'm liking Nikon more and more.

I was holding on until Canon announced the 7D2 in the hope that it would be as revolutionary as the 7D, if these specs are true, D810, 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 and 200-400 here I come.


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Sep 12, 2014 11:10 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #124

Nothing there that makes we want to upgrade, bit of a let down. :-(


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Sep 12, 2014 11:15 as a reply to  @ artyman's post |  #125

So it looks like the RGB + IR Photometry Sensor is a 150K RGB+IR pixel sensor for metering. Does that indicate a new sensor or a new feature on an old sensor?


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Sep 12, 2014 11:22 |  #126

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So it looks like the RGB + IR Photometry Sensor is a 150K RGB+IR pixel sensor for metering. Does that indicate a new sensor or a new feature on an old sensor?

It better be a new sensor. Right now, the Nikon group no longer debate the merits of Canon vs their Nikons. They rather discuss their cameras with Sony's new offerings. Its that bad. If Canon comes up with nothing new in the 7Dii, the 15th round is going to be 2015 and Canon needs a knock-out punch.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:24 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #127

I came over from CR hoping to escape the whining. How silly. Anyone who is currently using a 7D for action photography should be excited about a 1DX-level AF system with 10 fps. Questions about the sensor will be answered in due time, but the rest of the specs are looking pretty good.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:29 |  #128

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I came over from CR hoping to escape the whining. How silly. Anyone who is currently using a 7D for action photography should be excited about a 1DX-level AF system with 10 fps. Questions about the sensor will be answered in due time, but the rest of the specs are looking pretty good.

Agreed, even if the 7D is under 1 stop better than the 70D, with all the other features, it will be very nice to have it as a sports or wildlife body. 65 points and 10fps was something always reserved for the 1D series, and to see it hit the APS-C market is very nice.

Whining about whether you can pull up 4 stops of shades of darkness to expose things in the shadows isn't really something that is commonplace for what one would use the APS-C body for. I wouldn't have minded a touch screen, wireless (but I can throw $40 at that problem to resolve it), and a bit more resolution like maybe 24Mpx.

Now we wait for price to see how much over the price 5 years ago has increased for this new package. If it is over $1900, I won't even think about it, under $1900 then I wait for reviews and access to high ISO raw files.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:47 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #129

The question for me will be will it make me love it more than my 1D4 for birds and wildlife. High ISO and low light performance are a must. It really has to beat the 1D4 to really wow the wildlife customers many are still shooting their 1D4 cameras. Better high ISO and better AF together would make me get one for sure but it has to beat my 1D4 or it really would make no sense. Either way my 1D4 stays as I really love that body.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:48 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #130

As stated in the other post, even I own 1D3, the AF are pretty good but as the AF system it is inferior to the 5D3. Having a new 7D with the new AF system(assuming it will). This will be like a semi-pro version of 1D5.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 13:44 |  #131

I just noticed the dual card capability... CF + SD. NICE!!!


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Sep 12, 2014 14:49 |  #132

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17150285 (external link)
Whining about whether you can pull up 4 stops of shades of darkness to expose things in the shadows isn't really something that is commonplace for what one would use the APS-C body for.

You can anyway, with the 70D. 100% crops, 160 ISO.

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Clean, all of the detail from the shadows is there, and there's no banding/pattern noise.

Just use DPP. Remember that this is just "proof of concept", not "art" - but it makes the point...

I'll be very happy if the 7D Mk II has a enhanced derivative of the 70D's sensor...




  
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Sep 12, 2014 14:54 |  #133

davesrose wrote in post #17149280 (external link)
The sensor tech has improved so that the 7D2's ISO is equivalent to the 1D3 (even considering pixel pitch).

At the image level, the 7D is the match of the 1D Mk III (it's actually a little bit better) - I tested them both side-by-side at high ISO way back in 2009 before deciding on the 7D, and that finding was a prime motivation for choosing the 7D.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 15:00 |  #134

Paulstw wrote in post #17149553 (external link)
They really need to get their finger out with the drip feeding carry on. Nikon D750, FF camera with crop mode, 6.5fps and the best bit, a flippy screen (kidding on the last one) but Nikon have released three new FF cameras and Canon are still pissing about trying to replace the 7D. The only thing saving Canon's butt cheeks is their lenses. .

Quite a lot of irrelevance there. The only Nikon camera that's relevant to the 7D Mk II (or whatever they finally call it) is the D400, which is scheduled to come out in...

Oh yeah, that's right...

The reason that Nikon is pushing out a new model every other week (or so it seems) is that they're struggling and panicking, and desperately flailing around, scatter-gunning new product in the hope that some of it actually sticks.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 15:08 |  #135

canon rookie wrote in post #17150136 (external link)
Sooo true!!! If they are using the 70D's sensor and it's only 1/3 stop better than the 7D's...

You really haven't got a clue - 1/3 stop my arse.

This is what 10,000 ISO looks like from the 70D: http://kazemisu.me.uk/​images/70D_10000_ISO.j​pg (external link) - straight out of Capture One 7 at defalt NR, no additional PP NR.

Can't be done with the 7D - not even close. And I own them both - the 7D since 2009.

And this is how lifted low ISO shadows look:

http://kazemisu.me.uk …R/IMG_0263_DxO-1_crop.jpg (external link)

to

http://kazemisu.me.uk …/DR/IMG_0263_DP​P_crop.jpg (external link)

Again, that's way beyond what the 7D is capable of.

The 70D's sensor is bloody excellent - and an enhanced derivative in the 7D Mk II would be brilliant.




  
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