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Sep 12, 2014 15:11 |  #136

Keith R wrote in post #17150504 (external link)
Quite a lot of irrelevance there. The only Nikon camera that's relevant to the 7D Mk II (or whatever they finally call it) is the D400, which is scheduled to come out in...

Oh yeah, that's right...

The reason that Nikon is pushing out a new model every other week (or so it seems) is that they're struggling and panicking, and desperately flailing around, scatter-gunning new product in the hope that some of it actually sticks.

whole heartedly agree with this post.

they've got the D750 now, which is basically another iteration of the D600 series..... Maybe it'll work for them, but also has a chance of devaluing the whole FF market. Nikon sure seems to throw a lot of stuff at the wall.


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Sep 12, 2014 15:31 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #137

I'm having trouble grasping the concept that a rumors site can "confirm" something before the press release that announces the new product.


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Sep 12, 2014 15:32 as a reply to  @ post 17147869 |  #138
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Just curious.... Is a confirmed rumor an oxymoron, a mutually exclusive pair, or both?


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Sep 12, 2014 16:23 |  #139

Keith R wrote in post #17150522 (external link)
You really haven't got a clue - 1/3 stop my arse.

This is what 10,000 ISO looks like from the 70D: http://kazemisu.me.uk/​images/70D_10000_ISO.j​pg (external link) - straight out of Capture One 7 at defalt NR, no additional PP NR.

Can't be done with the 7D - not even close. And I own them both - the 7D since 2009.

And this is how lifted low ISO shadows look:

http://kazemisu.me.uk …R/IMG_0263_DxO-1_crop.jpg (external link)

to

http://kazemisu.me.uk …/DR/IMG_0263_DP​P_crop.jpg (external link)

Again, that's way beyond what the 7D is capable of.

The 70D's sensor is bloody excellent - and an enhanced derivative in the 7D Mk II would be brilliant.



hmmm if that's as good as the 7 d 11 provides in the near future - then I reckon nikon will be very happy - I think your viewing the 70 d iso performance thru rose coloured glasses and that's understandable as its your cam and you bought it with your hard earned - I agree with many others if I did not have a bagfull of c lenses then I reckon I would have switched to nikon by now - its the c lenses that are saving canon at the moment


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Sep 12, 2014 16:51 as a reply to  @ patrol50's post |  #140

What is missing from the (still rumored) specs is information about functionality upgrades, such as expanded bracketing options and true auto-ISO. I'm hoping that these sorts of upgrades are present.


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Sep 12, 2014 18:11 |  #141

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Sep 12, 2014 20:03 |  #142

gossamer88 wrote in post #17148008 (external link)
On the 6D, GPS is a battery killer.

That's because it doesn't turn off. Ever.

Not even when the camera is fully off.


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Sep 12, 2014 20:16 |  #143

mclaren777 wrote in post #17151015 (external link)
That's because it doesn't turn off. Ever.

Not even when the camera is fully off.

These cameras are only fully off when you take the batteries out of them.


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Sep 12, 2014 22:03 |  #144

gossamer88 wrote in post #17148008 (external link)
On the 6D, GPS is a battery killer.

mclaren777 wrote in post #17151015 (external link)
That's because it doesn't turn off. Ever.

Not even when the camera is fully off.


Incorrect.

The GPS on/off mode is simply independent of the camera's on/off mode. If the GPS Mode was left "on" when the camera is turned off, then the GPS will keep running. On the other hand, if the GPS Mode is turned "off", then it will remain off. The camera's on/off switch does not affect it.

There is a practical reason for this. GPS units often take several minutes to determine its location. If the GPS is turned off whenever the camera itself is off, it would lead to problems. When the photographer turns on his camera and takes a shot, none of the photos he takes within the first few minutes would be tagged with GPS data. That is the reason Canon designed it the way they did.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 22:26 |  #145

Charlie wrote in post #17150527 (external link)
whole heartedly agree with this post.

they've got the D750 now, which is basically another iteration of the D600 series..... Maybe it'll work for them, but also has a chance of devaluing the whole FF market. Nikon sure seems to throw a lot of stuff at the wall.

I'm a bit confused by Nikon move here. From spec point of view, it seem the D750 is aimed to compete w/ 5D3 with 1/4000s max shutter speed and $1000 cheaper. While the D800/810 is like competing w/ the 5D3 at the price point, but spec wise it's aimed at different kind of photographer.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 22:30 |  #146

RWatkins wrote in post #17148068 (external link)
Given the rehashed 70D sensor, this better not be over 2K.

Who told you its the same sensor? Same pixel count doesn't mean anything.

BG Ed wrote in post #17148239 (external link)
Sensor question: Canon specs the 70D at a max ISO of 12800, so if the 7D II is rated up to 16000, is it therefore a new sensor? Or is there another way to increase the rated ISO of the sensor, if they are indeed using the exact same 70D sensor?

There was a recent sony camera that had a top iso of 16000 too.

hiketheplanet wrote in post #17148774 (external link)
Don't write it off yet. Think about it, a 70D quality APS-C sensor with 1DX AF system? Sounds pretty sweet to me. Of course, the price will be the real decider.

Can't be the 1D X AF system. That has 61 points so this would seem to be all new. 1D X's points are not all cross type either.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 22:55 |  #147

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #17151238 (external link)
Can't be the 1D X AF system. That has 61 points so this would seem to be all new. 1D X's points are not all cross type either.

I think he meant how the AF works, which maybe the same, not necessary the number of AF points or how they laid out. Having used the 5D2, 5D3 and 1D3. I very enjoy using the 5D3 and how the AF works and the UI. It's much better than the older one. Keeping in mind that the 7D2 AF would still be a major improvement over 7D even with some differences from 1DX/5D3. Regardless of whether they are the same or not, it maybe 65 points w/ just 1 double cross type vs the 1DX 61 w/ 5 double cross type and those cross type are f/8. I like what Canon have done in term of AF improvement so far. If they all can AF at f/8 also, that would be super awesome, one more reason to plunge down the money.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 23:53 |  #148

stargazer78 wrote in post #17151205 (external link)
Incorrect.

The GPS on/off mode is simply independent of the camera's on/off mode. If the GPS Mode was left "on" when the camera is turned off, then the GPS will keep running. On the other hand, if the GPS Mode is turned "off", then it will remain off. The camera's on/off switch does not affect it.

There is a practical reason for this. GPS units often take several minutes to determine its location. If the GPS is turned off whenever the camera itself is off, it would lead to problems. When the photographer turns on his camera and takes a shot, none of the photos he takes within the first few minutes would be tagged with GPS data. That is the reason Canon designed it the way they did.

Would have been better the other way isn't it and let the photographers know that they need to wait for say 1 min when powering on the camera. Display something in the VF that GPS is initializing.


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Sep 12, 2014 23:56 |  #149

stargazer78 wrote in post #17151205 (external link)
Incorrect.

The GPS on/off mode is simply independent of the camera's on/off mode.

You're right. I knew better, but I was being hasty and I forgot about that.

Thanks for correcting me.


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Sep 13, 2014 04:45 |  #150

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There have been rumors some companies may soon come up with a slightly-magic complicated processes they put in that could potentially allow the user a select-able option that would control whether the wifi was on or not.

Wow! And they say that innovation is dead at Canon. :D


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