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Sep 14, 2014 13:43 |  #16

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #17153780 (external link)
The G7 X has better specs than the lx100, unless you are being fooled that ultra HD video is useful. lx100 has a shorter lens, fewer pixels and will cost $900

Also unless you think a 1 inch sensor > micro 4/3 sensor. Did you miss that part? :D




  
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Sep 14, 2014 14:12 |  #17

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #17153780 (external link)
The G7 X has better specs than the lx100, unless you are being fooled that ultra HD video is useful. lx100 has a shorter lens, fewer pixels and will cost $900

Not sure if u saw the lx100 specs correctly. The sensor is twice the size of the g7x.


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Sep 14, 2014 15:25 |  #18

Where did you all see the micro 4/3 on the LX100?




  
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Sep 14, 2014 19:36 |  #19

As per one of the many rumor sites (external link), the sensor is touted to be 4/3" (aka micro four-thirds). Could be that they're wrong too, but I suppose we should wait till the official announcement that should happen any day now. :)


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Sep 14, 2014 20:49 |  #20

Then you all realized that we don't even know the physical size of the G7X yet, but we assume it's smaller than G1X mk II because of the sensor size. And if this G7X is similar in size to the RX100(mk I- III) Then this LX100 would likely be larger by a significant footprint and not exactly fighting in the same market. Why even bother comparing 2 of somethings we don't even know are true yet? Speculation of potentially leaked spec in one thing. But, very?




  
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Sep 14, 2014 22:09 |  #21

low5530 wrote in post #17153887 (external link)
Not sure if u saw the lx100 specs correctly. The sensor is twice the size of the g7x.

Depends on your needs. The lx100 will be bigger, heavier, and might well be double the price of the G7 X.




  
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Sep 14, 2014 22:20 as a reply to  @ HappySnapper90's post |  #22

We already know the LX100 with 43 sensor and EVF will sell for $899. The G7X will likely cost $600. I would guess the G7X could be slightly larger deeper than the RX100 due to the long end at 100mm f2.8 vs 70mm f2.8 on the Sony.


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Sep 15, 2014 00:07 |  #23

hoodlum wrote in post #17154630 (external link)
We already know the LX100 with 43 sensor and EVF will sell for $899. The G7X will likely cost $600. I would guess the G7X could be slightly larger deeper than the RX100 due to the long end at 100mm f2.8 vs 70mm f2.8 on the Sony.

How much have the S series cost upon release? $450? If Canon can somehow surprise with a camera that his physically smaller even than the RX100 at that kind of price point, I think they'll have a huge hit on their hands.




  
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Sep 15, 2014 00:14 |  #24

The Dark Knight wrote in post #17154748 (external link)
How much have the S series cost upon release? $450? If Canon can somehow surprise with a camera that his physically smaller even than the RX100 at that kind of price point, I think they'll have a huge hit on their hands.

But hugh hit doesn't make money. Canon isn't in the market to make camera that people want, but one that sell and make money. I don't think the initial price will ever be that low. Not to mention, we are talking about a G-series not S-series.




  
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Sep 15, 2014 00:18 |  #25

hoodlum wrote in post #17154630 (external link)
We already know the LX100 with 43 sensor and EVF will sell for $899. The G7X will likely cost $600. I would guess the G7X could be slightly larger deeper than the RX100 due to the long end at 100mm f2.8 vs 70mm f2.8 on the Sony.

Is there a way to engineer around this? I guess we are speculating about stuff we'll find out soon, but could the lens theoretically be longer than the Sony's lens when powered on, but still maintain a depth that's about the same size as the RX100?




  
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Sep 15, 2014 00:55 |  #26

The Dark Knight wrote in post #17154757 (external link)
Is there a way to engineer around this? I guess we are speculating about stuff we'll find out soon, but could the lens theoretically be longer than the Sony's lens when powered on, but still maintain a depth that's about the same size as the RX100?

I suppose that is possible, but to still maintain good optic quality that's another story. Sony have done the RX100 for 3 generations so Sony have the expertise on building the lens around the 1" sensor. Considering the latest gen using some weird technique to bond the lens together, that very take some engineering skill and guts to experiment. (look at pg 1 of DPR review) Seriously Canon have way longer history in making good lens and camera for a long time, so I would think Canon can if needed be spend some engineering effort solving such problem and try to dominate the high end pocketable P&S. Canon have never done any good(extraordinary) lens in such tiny package, so I would think this depend on how Canon view this camera segment whether they are marketable and profitable.




  
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Sep 15, 2014 09:18 |  #27

Sparky98 wrote in post #17153581 (external link)
I just went to the Canon USA site to look at what is offered in the Power Shot cameras and the link won't work for the Power Shot line. All other links work, just not the Power Shot link. Does that mean anything? Could they be revising that particular link?

You were right!

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …s/cameras/digit​al_cameras (external link)

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Sep 15, 2014 20:10 |  #28

hoodlum wrote in post #17154630 (external link)
We already know the LX100 with 43 sensor and EVF will sell for $899. The G7X will likely cost $600. I would guess the G7X could be slightly larger deeper than the RX100 due to the long end at 100mm f2.8 vs 70mm f2.8 on the Sony.

Just 1/8" thicker than the rx100-3




  
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Sep 15, 2014 20:25 |  #29

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #17157006 (external link)
Just 1/8" thicker than the rx100-3

There's some solid competition in this segment now. Pay $50 more and get an EVF but lose reach with the RX-100, or go with the G7X. Or pay a bit more, lose pocketability, but still get a very good compact camera with the LX100.

It's funny because I feel like if Sony had put a fast lens like that with that amount of reach in their RX-100 MK III even without the EVF, people would still have been clamoring about what an amazing product it was. But because it's Canon, it seems to be received with yawns.

I personally think it's a pretty big deal that Canon was able to finally come out with a 1 inch sensor compact that has a fast lens with this amount of reach.




  
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Sep 15, 2014 20:29 |  #30

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- 1 inch 20MP CMOS sensor
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