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Canon officially announces the 7D Mark II

 
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Sep 16, 2014 06:54 |  #466

Submariner wrote in post #17157840 (external link)
Agreed.
I was disappointed with the slow SD slot on the 5D3, and USB 2.0 ( that.was pretty disgraceful ).

A smart accessory for Canon to produce would be a CF> SD UHS 1 jacket. If the same throughput could be attained - we could all migrate to SD. Useful for 5D3 and 7Dmk2 owners.
No more bent pins lol!

Personally I would happily pay for a "return to Canon upgrade" from the USB2.0 to USB 3.00 port.

In 10 years across multiple bodies, I have never had a bent pin, so that is the last concern I have with the cf format.


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Sep 16, 2014 06:56 |  #467

Invertalon wrote in post #17157833 (external link)
After spending some time to "soak it in", I think Canon is going to have THE sports/wildlife camera among all the brands. While we are all still waiting to see how much the sensor has improved, it won't be the make/break for the camera.

The upgraded AF system with the 10fps is a great upgrade. Upgraded body build quality and other features are good for the mark II of this body. Priced well, too.

I am interested in one for sure... My problem is, they release these bodies after my "season" so I won't really need one until next spring sometime. Hopefully some good deals on it by then!

Yup. The AF is the selling point for this camera; a minor upgrade to the sensor won't matter much either way.


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Sep 16, 2014 06:58 |  #468

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So when I see a few shots at 1600 iso from the mark 11 that look the same as or better than 200 or 400 iso shots from the old 7 d mark 1 then I will believe the canon marketing hype because at the moment that is all it is - marketing hype by paid marketing people - very interesting there are no iso comparison shots around - surely if the iso was such a big leap forward on the new mark 11 they would have put that up in big lights rather than "the trust us we are marketing people " hype being put out now
call me cynical if you like but wait and see may be the go - !!!
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You won't. I'd be shocked if they got a three stop improvement out of it. I would expect at least one full stop, though.


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Sep 16, 2014 07:04 |  #469

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Too bad one battery won't last for the 200k actuations. :p

Two words: AC Adapter!


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Sep 16, 2014 07:07 |  #470

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You won't. I'd be shocked if they got a three stop improvement out of it. I would expect at least one full stop, though.

I expect the 7d2 to compete with the 5d2, which is about 1.3 stops better than the original 7d and 1/2 or so better than the 70d. If it is better yet than that, then great!


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Sep 16, 2014 07:08 |  #471

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wifi or a swivel screen would have pushed me over the edge. I've just got it in my mind now that cameras really benefit from connectivity; but agreed happily suprised by the price.

Yeah a swivel screen is the one thing I really wish this had for odd-angle macro shooting, but I understand that it would likely hurt the robustness and dust and water resistance.


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Sep 16, 2014 07:10 |  #472

The slot in the 70D is pretty speedy (certainly better than the 60D and 5D3 disgraces lol), but I don't think it really opens up dual shooting nonetheless because it's still slower than CF is/was, so there will still be some element of bottlenecking.

Assuming the general process of dual cards has remained the same.


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Sep 16, 2014 07:11 |  #473

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I expect the 7d2 to compete with the 5d2, which is about 1.3 stops better than the original 7d and 1/2 or so better than the 70d. If it is better yet than that, then great!

I'd take that too!


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Sep 16, 2014 07:35 |  #474

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so who buys this?

Me the soccer dad who generally takes pictures as a hobby. Yes, I'm the guy who take pictures at the soccer game, vacation and when ever the opportunity arises. I'm a "non-professionals" who doesn't make a living at photography. I wont buy it the day it comes out, but after the reviews come out and people stop speculating from a spec sheet and see what it will really do. If it is a flop (which I don't think it will be) and nothing else in the Canon line appeals to me I will go else where.


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Sep 16, 2014 07:38 |  #475

I'm going to wait a few month until the price drops...


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Sep 16, 2014 07:48 as a reply to  @ North Dude's post |  #476

Some high ISO photos. They look really good. However....JPEG.....

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Sep 16, 2014 07:54 |  #477

maybe Im not the only one who thinks this is a mom and dad camera
when I can get way better iq with a mirror less camera a dlsr or a fred flintstone stone camera I will check it out
I dont think the 7d2 is a major upgrade until I see real world use in the caves I shoot in

Wildlife is different than the sports I shoot
daylight vs a cave

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Sep 16, 2014 07:58 |  #478

snake0ape wrote in post #17157953 (external link)
Some high ISO photos. They look really good. However....JPEG.....

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I love how he dismisses the 16000 and just says it goes to 12800.


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Sep 16, 2014 08:08 |  #479

At $1799, they are hitting the price point. It's a nice offering at that price.

The sensor geek in my is disappointed, though. New micro-lenses, doesn't mean new sensor. Now, if you eliminate CFA and use a micro-lens prism to split the light to each pixel, then maybe you have a new sensor. But even that's borderline. Both can give gains, though. So we will see.

The thing that's bothering me, is that the 70D dual pixels were said to have created additional gaps between the pixels. When it was released, though being a new sensor, it only slightly improved on the 60D. If this helps them realize the full potential of the sensor, then great, but it's still the 70D sensor.

It will be extra photons, though. That's the best way to get signal. I wonder what the efficiency increase will be.

I'm still trying to watch all of the reviews. I really want to want a new DSLR.


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Sep 16, 2014 08:11 as a reply to  @ travisvwright's post |  #480

For JPEG images, I'm very impressed. Especially at 12800 and 51200 ISO. So whether it's software or hardware improvements, at least the "mom and pop" group will appreciate it. If the raw is pretty clean at ISO 6400, I think the 7dii will be a game changer. http://mattgranger.com​/7d2 (external link)


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