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Sep 16, 2014 08:55 |  #511

gjl711 wrote in post #17158069 (external link)
I think your skipping a huge category, enthusiasts. There are a lot of photographers out there with 40/50/60/7/70Ds who have been longing for an upgrade.

40/50/7 users I can see this as an upgrade
60/70 not so much sure its better but cost effective better IDK

I went from a 40d to a 70d I felt that was a cost worthy upgrade

this kinda reminds me of the apple phones
5 to a 6 is an upgrade but for me not cost effective

they are marketing this as a sports camera big group of enthusiasts mom amd dad little league


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Sep 16, 2014 08:57 |  #512

burnet44 wrote in post #17158090 (external link)
40/50/7 users I can see this as an upgrade
60/70 not so much sure its better but cost effective better IDK
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I'm sitting on a 7D and have been itching for an upgrade for the last 2 years. This camera feature wise is outstanding but I still need to see some real results.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:03 |  #513

The 7Dm2 appears to be a significant upgrade over the 7D in AF system and frame rate ( not looking at the video side since that is not meaningful to me, but may be meaningful to others). Until there are some in the field, and Roger Cicala gets to evaluate the precision of the new AF system, we won't know how much of an improvement the AF system is over the 7D.

As for the sensor, given the pixel count is identical to the 70D, and both have DP tech in them, the odds are it is at least a derivative of the 70D's sensor. What we don't know is how much Canon can do with this sensor; there can easily be features that could have been in the 70D that were deliberately disabled so they could be used in this camera. We won't know anything about the relative sensor performance until there are a significant number of 7Dm2 bodies in the field. Personally, I was hoping for a 15 or 16Mp sensor with at least 1/2 f-stop high ISO performance boost in RAW.

Based on published specs, the 7Dm2 is a solid upgrade over the 7D, and sits at a good price point. I have owned my 7D for nearly 5 years, it is a very good all-around camera. The 7D is also at its best when coupled with the best glass; this should not be discounted and I have found this out the hard way. I will be very interested in seeing what kind of sensor performance skilled users can drag out of the 20.2Mp sensor; I have gotten much more skilled over the years in maximizing the 18Mp sensor for indoor sports, outdoor sports, and birding. I have also gotten much more skilled in maximizing the performance of the 19pt AF system ( staying away from situations known to frustrate it ).


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Sep 16, 2014 09:03 |  #514

agree 711

canon 6d on ebay just went to 1350


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Sep 16, 2014 09:05 |  #515

snake0ape wrote in post #17158036 (external link)
Yeah, I noticed that Matt can't focus. Blame the photographer. It can't be the camera, aye.

If he hadn't the time to check if the lens needed microfocus-adjustments, he should have used live-view AF. That removes the issues with calibration.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:07 |  #516

andrikos wrote in post #17158050 (external link)
Dad NOT mom.

NO!!! the proper term is "Not the Mama"!!
from the Dinosaurs TV series about 10 years ago - dang I miss that show :)
My 3 sons all call me Not the Mama.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:08 |  #517

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NO!!! the proper term is "Not the Mama"!!
from the Dinosaurs TV series about 10 years ago - dang I miss that show :)
My 3 sons all call me Not the Mama.

10 years, lol when did you type this post?


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Sep 16, 2014 09:18 |  #518

I use my 7D mainly for concert photography now. I've been able to make do despite the noise I get at ISO 1600.
I usually have to adjust exposure -1 to -2 to get decent shots. I'll be excited about the 7D2 if it's capable of better low light performance.
That in itself would be a game changer for me.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:19 |  #519

Petie53 wrote in post #17158102 (external link)
NO!!! the proper term is "Not the Mama"!!
from the Dinosaurs TV series about 10 years ago - dang I miss that show :)
My 3 sons all call me Not the Mama.

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Sep 16, 2014 09:41 |  #520

burnet44 wrote in post #17158063 (external link)
--birders small market?
--multi-media and photojournalists maybe but all the media I see have 1d4, 5dIII or 1dx
--sports shooters see above I dont feel this is better than those
--wildlife shooters possibly but this is a small market? comments welcome
--Rebel, X0D, 7D upgraders mom and dad maybe 1d3 or less users for upgrade?
--Sony and Nikon crop migraters maybe but you have to change lenses
--and yes, moms and dads as I said

can canon sell enough to non mom and dads to make this profitable?

A lot of Aviation enthusiasts use the 7D, that's like the best most affordable camera out there for some, so the 7DII will naturally be an upgrade... and a good one at that.

I've just got the 7D, bit slow with the times, but once cash allows I will get one to complement it.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:47 |  #521

Hey I am really old now and time has no meaning! Oh now I see 91-94. ;)
Well my wife says I have Alzheimer's and I use that as my excuse all the time.
Oh and my sons STILL call me that.

And I am going to use the Alzheimer's excuse when I order the 7D II and forget to tell her. ;)


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Sep 16, 2014 09:53 |  #522

burnet44 wrote in post #17158063 (external link)
--birders small market?
--multi-media and photojournalists maybe but all the media I see have 1d4, 5dIII or 1dx
--sports shooters see above I dont feel this is better than those
--wildlife shooters possibly but this is a small market? comments welcome
--Rebel, X0D, 7D upgraders mom and dad maybe 1d3 or less users for upgrade?
--Sony and Nikon crop migraters maybe but you have to change lenses
--and yes, moms and dads as I said

can canon sell enough to non mom and dads to make this profitable?

Yes. The big market will be former Nikon DX owners.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:54 |  #523

Footbag wrote in post #17158079 (external link)
This will sell to all of those groups. The price is right and the specs look good.

It's not the camera that reasserts Canon's dominance in the camera market, but it's going to make a lot of users happy.

+1. Me for sure will be happy but I am not in hurry to pre order it. Will wait for more moms and dads reviews first.


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Sep 16, 2014 09:57 |  #524

LOTS of moms and dads must be pre-ordering this camera; it's already a "Best Seller" on Amazon!



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Sep 16, 2014 10:04 |  #525

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