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Sep 20, 2014 21:31 |  #1

Hi!

I want to buy my first FF camera so Ive been looking for a 5d Mk 2 (used) and today I found one that I liked it but it says the sensor has been replaced recently and now has about 50 shutter actuations.

For that reason I want to ask to all of you if is a good idea to buy a camera with a new sensor or buy one with about 45-60k shutter actuations.

I mean I would love to know the cons and pros about geting a camera with new sensor.

I will appreciate your advices, tips, etc.

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Sep 20, 2014 21:35 |  #2
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If Canon put the sensor in, I wouldn't worry one bit about it. Does the seller have a repair invoice from Canon? You'll love that Σ zoom on full frame.


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Sep 20, 2014 21:41 |  #3

How much do they want for it? Depending on the price, I would look into a 6D instead.


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Sep 20, 2014 21:41 |  #4

One thing I like about the 5dmk2 is the 1/8000 shutter speed. Canon 6d has better high ISO performance.

I do find sometimes find I am in the upper region of fast shutter speed beyond 1/4000 shutter speed even with my f/2.8 zooms. I dont lug ND filters on shoots.

In your case I'd suggest buying a new 6d. Just make sure you set your ISO so that you dont surpass 1/4000 in outdoor bright light shooting. Indoors you'll never have that problem :)

Buying a camera with a new shutter is find. I've had a friend buy a higher mileage camera with a new shutter replacement. Unfortunately later he had a circuit board fail in the camera ...bad luck !!!

Look for a mint low mileage 5dmk2 or just buy a new 6d and abuse that :)


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Sep 20, 2014 21:51 |  #5
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AlanU is right about the 1/4000. It gets in the way, sometimes. I think that is why Canon put ISO 50 on the 6D.


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Sep 20, 2014 21:54 |  #6

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17167990 (external link)
If Canon put the sensor in, I wouldn't worry one bit about it. Does the seller have a repair invoice from Canon? You'll love that Σ zoom on full frame.

I will ask to the seller if Canon put the sensor and if he can show me the invoice just to be sure.

Thank you and I would love to test my zoom lens on a FF camera. ;)


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Sep 20, 2014 21:57 |  #7
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reyces wrote in post #17168012 (external link)
I will ask to the seller if Canon put the sensor and if he can show me the invoice just to be sure.

Thank you and I would love to test my zoom lens on a FF camera. ;)

If Canon DIDN'T install it, I wouldn't touch that camera at any price.


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Sep 20, 2014 21:59 |  #8

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How much do they want for it? Depending on the price, I would look into a 6D instead.

Thanks! Well the price is $1250 with Canon grip.
i heard a lot of good things about 6d and honestly I want a camera with a good ISO performance because I did a wedding couple weeks ago with my 7d and I got a lot of noise... Even with ISO 400 :/


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Sep 20, 2014 22:00 |  #9

AlanU wrote in post #17167996 (external link)
One thing I like about the 5dmk2 is the 1/8000 shutter speed. Canon 6d has better high ISO performance.

I do find sometimes find I am in the upper region of fast shutter speed beyond 1/4000 shutter speed even with my f/2.8 zooms. I dont lug ND filters on shoots.

In your case I'd suggest buying a new 6d. Just make sure you set your ISO so that you dont surpass 1/4000 in outdoor bright light shooting. Indoors you'll never have that problem :)

Buying a camera with a new shutter is find. I've had a friend buy a higher mileage camera with a new shutter replacement. Unfortunately later he had a circuit board fail in the camera ...bad luck !!!

Look for a mint low mileage 5dmk2 or just buy a new 6d and abuse that :)

Thanks for your comment, helps a lot! And that is what I want... ISO performance.


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Sep 20, 2014 22:02 |  #10

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17168020 (external link)
If Canon DIDN'T install it, I wouldn't touch that camera at any price.

I know! First question to the seller.

Thanks again!


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Sep 20, 2014 22:08 |  #11

AlanU wrote in post #17167996 (external link)
One thing I like about the 5dmk2 is the 1/8000 shutter speed. Canon 6d has better high ISO performance.

I do find sometimes find I am in the upper region of fast shutter speed beyond 1/4000 shutter speed even with my f/2.8 zooms. I dont lug ND filters on shoots.

In your case I'd suggest buying a new 6d. Just make sure you set your ISO so that you dont surpass 1/4000 in outdoor bright light shooting. Indoors you'll never have that problem :)

Buying a camera with a new shutter is find. I've had a friend buy a higher mileage camera with a new shutter replacement. Unfortunately later he had a circuit board fail in the camera ...bad luck !!!

Look for a mint low mileage 5dmk2 or just buy a new 6d and abuse that :)

I have a new question, how can I know if a low mileage camera has the original sensor or if a replacement ? Because there is another local seller with a 5dmk2 with just about 5k shutter actuations...he said is the original sensor but how can I know if is true or not ?


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Sep 20, 2014 22:09 |  #12

Reyces,

Please consider a new 6d. It will not be like a 7d for focus but it will have incredible high iso performance.

For indoor shooting this will be a great camera for your workflow.

A new shutter in a 5dmk2 doesn't appeal to me. I'm not concerned with battery grip so the $1250 combo deal isn't appealing to me whatsoever. Spend a bit more and get a new camera :)


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Sep 20, 2014 22:32 |  #13

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Reyces,

Please consider a new 6d. It will not be like a 7d for focus but it will have incredible high iso performance.

For indoor shooting this will be a great camera for your workflow.

A new shutter in a 5dmk2 doesn't appeal to me. I'm not concerned with battery grip so the $1250 combo deal isn't appealing to me whatsoever. Spend a bit more and get a new camera :)

Thanks! Trust me I'm very disappointed with 7d performance, soft focus and a lot of noise.

I'm interested in a camera with a good ISO performance and you're right will be better to spend a little more for a new camera. Thanks for your advice.


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Sep 20, 2014 23:10 |  #14

reyces wrote in post #17168072 (external link)
Thanks! Trust me I'm very disappointed with 7d performance, soft focus and a lot of noise.

I'm interested in a camera with a good ISO performance and you're right will be better to spend a little more for a new camera. Thanks for your advice.

There are ways to improve your image quality using lightroom. However I'll have to say its always easier to post process better foundation RAW files with other camera's. The 5dmk2 is getting old but it certainly produces incredible high quality files. Raw files are very flexible.

I want to buy a 6d for the purpose of low light indoor photography. I really am not happy with the 1/4000 shutter speed but I can deal with this by using it for indoor uses or using ND filters for outdoors.

Possibly someone can chime in but there was a website that would link to many Canon camera's and give accurate shutter count. I cant recall what site that was.

I think I'll buy a 6d for now and wait until the 5dmk4 comes out. If the 7dmk2 truly has improved in IQ from a 70D I will consider that camera as a video/stills camera. At this moment in time I'm not in a big hurry in buying a 5dmk3. My 5dmk2's still work well for my application but it's always nice to have better high iso performance.


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Sep 20, 2014 23:13 as a reply to  @ reyces's post |  #15

my vote also goes to a 6D. i made my decision just a week ago, waiting for it to arrive now. better to spend that extra bit and have peace of mind, and saving yourself alot of trouble :D


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