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Sep 20, 2014 23:30 |  #16

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I have a new question, how can I know if a low mileage camera has the original sensor or if a replacement ? Because there is another local seller with a 5dmk2 with just about 5k shutter actuations...he said is the original sensor but how can I know if is true or not ?

No way to know for sure, but having the sensor replaced is fairly rare in the realm of failed components.

The question I would be asking is WHY it was replaced. If it was because of external damage like a fall or water, I wouldn't buy it. Sensors do fail, but it is not that often unless you put it in front of a laser.


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Sep 21, 2014 00:04 |  #17

So, were the sensor and the shutter replaced? Or does the original shutter have 50 actuations on it since the sensor was replaced?

You refer to the sensor being replaced, but you also refer to the number of shutter actuations. Is the shutter normally replaced when the sensor is replaced?


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Sep 21, 2014 00:43 |  #18

I would pick the 6D over 5D II any day.


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Sep 21, 2014 00:46 |  #19

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There are ways to improve your image quality using lightroom. However I'll have to say its always easier to post process better foundation RAW files with other camera's. The 5dmk2 is getting old but it certainly produces incredible high quality files. Raw files are very flexible.

I want to buy a 6d for the purpose of low light indoor photography. I really am not happy with the 1/4000 shutter speed but I can deal with this by using it for indoor uses or using ND filters for outdoors.

Possibly someone can chime in but there was a website that would link to many Canon camera's and give accurate shutter count. I cant recall what site that was.

I think I'll buy a 6d for now and wait until the 5dmk4 comes out. If the 7dmk2 truly has improved in IQ from a 70D I will consider that camera as a video/stills camera. At this moment in time I'm not in a big hurry in buying a 5dmk3. My 5dmk2's still work well for my application but it's always nice to have better high iso performance.

Its true, I've been using LR to improve the quality of the images from my last weeding but I'm not happy at all with the 7d performance.

I think I will need to think seriously about the 6d, I really appreciate all your advices.

Regarding the speed 1/4000 I'm fine with that, because most of my work is indoor, for that reason I'm very interested in ISO performance.


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Sep 21, 2014 00:48 |  #20

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my vote also goes to a 6D. i made my decision just a week ago, waiting for it to arrive now. better to spend that extra bit and have peace of mind, and saving yourself alot of trouble :D

Really? that's awesome and let us know if you do some tests with that camera using it in low light situation.

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Sep 21, 2014 00:50 |  #21

Gregg.Siam wrote in post #17168149 (external link)
No way to know for sure, but having the sensor replaced is fairly rare in the realm of failed components.

The question I would be asking is WHY it was replaced. If it was because of external damage like a fall or water, I wouldn't buy it. Sensors do fail, but it is not that often unless you put it in front of a laser.

Oh my... that's a good question. Its true is important to know why it was replaced. Thanks!! ;)


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Sep 21, 2014 00:54 |  #22

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So, were the sensor and the shutter replaced? Or does the original shutter have 50 actuations on it since the sensor was replaced?

You refer to the sensor being replaced, but you also refer to the number of shutter actuations. Is the shutter normally replaced when the sensor is replaced?

Well, the seller says "it has 26 shots on the new sensor".


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Sep 21, 2014 00:54 as a reply to  @ reyces's post |  #23

if you are in the US, just try to get a refurbished 6D directly from Canon USA. Price will be close to what they are asking for the 5D-II. And if you have any old Canon P&S lying around, you can qualify for USA Canon loyalty program.




  
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Sep 21, 2014 00:55 |  #24

01erionracing wrote in post #17168218 (external link)
I would pick the 6D over 5D II any day.

I will spend my night watching videos and reading reviews about 6D... I think will be the winner. :D


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Sep 21, 2014 00:57 |  #25

Unexpressive wrote in post #17168234 (external link)
if you are in the US, just try to get a refurbished 6D directly from Canon USA. Price will be close to what they are asking for the 5D-II. And if you have any old Canon P&S lying around, you can qualify for USA Canon loyalty program.

Interesting! thanks for this tip!


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Sep 21, 2014 01:27 |  #26

6D. Given the amount of time between the 5D MKII and the 6D...taking into consideration time in tech years...you definitely want to get the 6D. Throw money at something that will last instead of something already severely depreciated.


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Sep 21, 2014 02:38 |  #27

reyces wrote in post #17168226 (external link)
Really? that's awesome and let us know if you do some tests with that camera using it in low light situation.

Thanks,

6D, hand held at ISO 12800. You just would not believe how dark it was in that church. The camera performed better than my eyes.

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Sep 21, 2014 07:37 |  #28

Another 6D vote. At this point, unless I was getting the 5Dii from someone I completely trusted or Canon themselves (and even then I'd want it to be a really good deal), I'd go with the model still in production. As mentioned, you can get them refurbished from Canon for a really good deal, and occasionally you can find them on sale. Last year I waited around until I saw a sale pop up and grabbed mine (new) for $1500 (what Canon currently sells the refurbs for). If you go the loyalty route, you can get an even lower price.


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Sep 21, 2014 09:25 as a reply to  @ cdmicha's post |  #29

I started off with the T3i when it was first released, then got a 60D about a year later because I was looking to decouple the shutter speed and aperture controls and I moved onto back button focus.

Then about 6 months ago there was a great deal on a 6D with 24-105mm at best buy for less than $2k so I sold everything off and got it. The low light/low noise capability is amazing. It will also grab auto focus in these low light situations (I only use the center focus anyway). The other thing I didn't expect on the 6D was that you can load lens profiles for Lens Aberration and Vignetting. Makes a huge difference when I am shooting indoor and outdoor sports with JPG's (Volleyball and Baseball) from a distance. Maybe the other models do this but I first discovered it on the 6D. Also the wifi remote shooting for landscape is a big plus. Framing and exposure is easy to nail as well using the wifi remote app on my ipad.

Oh, and the depth of field is much shallower than the Crop, so very good for portraits.

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Sep 21, 2014 09:42 as a reply to  @ drveede76's post |  #30

Here are a few examples, none of these shots would have been possible with the crop frame or without a flash:

ISO 2500

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ISO 6400
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ISO 6400
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ISO 6400 (external link) by drveede (external link), on Flickr

ISO 12,800
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ISO 12,800 (external link) by drveede (external link), on Flickr

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