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Sep 24, 2014 21:56 |  #1

Hey everyone, well as the title says I am a complete beginner when is comes to dlsr, I have been dabbling with photography for around a year or two and finally decided to take the plunge and get a half decent camera, my passions in life are fishing and birds of prey. I purchased a canon 70D a few weeks back have been watching tutorials and I think I'm getting the hang of it, what I would like to know is what lens you guys would recommend for birding! As I'm only starting out I don't want to spend heaps so price range is around $1000 any info would be amazing thank you




  
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Sep 24, 2014 22:00 |  #2

Get a 400mm f5.6/L. Great lens. I'm sure you can get it in that range slightly used.




  
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Sep 24, 2014 22:10 |  #3

Thank you Sean




  
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Sep 24, 2014 22:14 |  #4

A used 100-400is (1000-1100)
A used 300 f4is + a 1.4 tc. (1100-1200)
A used 400 f5.6 (900-1100)
A Tamron 150-600 ( new 1069)
Not out yet but soon, a Sigma 150-600os "c" (no one knows the price yet, the "s" model will be 2000. The guess is the "c" model will be somewhere around half that)

The zooms will give you more uses other than just birding.
The primes will probably give you better image quality.


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Sep 24, 2014 22:19 |  #5

seanp3 wrote in post #17176118 (external link)
Get a 400mm f5.6/L. Great lens. I'm sure you can get it in that range slightly used.

I also see some bird photographers in my place using this lens with 2X extender. I am not a birdy one, so I do not know the effect on this. :)




  
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Sep 24, 2014 22:20 as a reply to  @ Dabbs's post |  #6

Hello, and welcome. :)
Since you're new to photography/dSLR, i would suggest the Tamron 150-600VC. It's ~$1100US new, but stock is hard to find. If you can wait, i would go this route. The Canon EF 400/5.6L doesn't have image stabilization(IS), so keeping motion blur down is trickier.

If you want to do mainly bird-in-flight shots, then the 400/5.6 is hard to beat.. due to it's IQ(image quality)/super-fast auto focus(AF)/needing high shutter speeds anyways, which mitigates the stability(IS) issue somewhat.


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Sep 24, 2014 22:43 |  #7

Wow guys this is awesome info! Thank you so much, I think I got an real good deal with my camera I managed to get the 70D body canon 50mm 1.8 sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 and canon 18-55 with a 64gb SD card and canon case all for $1800, mad to think il be paying more for a single lens than the body and 3 lenses! Look forward to sharing my pictures and getting some advice on how to improve! Thanks once again




  
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Sep 24, 2014 23:03 |  #8

Sigma 50-500 OS is an option too


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Sep 24, 2014 23:44 |  #9

Dabbs wrote in post #17176112 (external link)
Hey everyone, well as the title says I am a complete beginner when is comes to dlsr, I have been dabbling with photography for around a year or two and finally decided to take the plunge and get a half decent camera, my passions in life are fishing and birds of prey. I purchased a canon 70D a few weeks back have been watching tutorials and I think I'm getting the hang of it, what I would like to know is what lens you guys would recommend for birding! As I'm only starting out I don't want to spend heaps so price range is around $1000 any info would be amazing thank you

Heya,

If you want to catch more birds in flight, then a fast to focus lens is ideal. The 400 F5.6L (prime, not zoom) is a wonderful start for this on the 70D. It's a great entry to fast birding. If you're looking to just take images of wildlife/birds in the environmental, and less concerned with capturing them in flight, then something with more reach can be really nice, like the Sigma 500 or the Tamron 600. All three are in your price range essentially.

I would not mess with teleconverters yet. Start with a base lens and go from there. Don't buy a shorter lens with a teleconverter in mind. Get the longest fastest glass you can afford now. See if you stick to what you think you want to do.

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Sep 25, 2014 00:18 |  #10

Dabbs wrote in post #17176183 (external link)
Wow guys this is awesome info! Thank you so much, I think I got an real good deal with my camera I managed to get the 70D body canon 50mm 1.8 sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 and canon 18-55 with a 64gb SD card and canon case all for $1800, mad to think il be paying more for a single lens than the body and 3 lenses! Look forward to sharing my pictures and getting some advice on how to improve! Thanks once again

You can start birding with the Sigma 70-300. You will probably find the 300 a bit short for many situations. But it is a good start! Work with it to find if you like the activity and to see what problems you might run into.

Once you have some experience, try to decide if you are going to use a tripod for your birding. If yes, then consider the 400/5.6. It needs a tripod because it lacks Image Stabilization.

But many (me included) practically never use a tripod for birding. If you think you might go along these lines, then select a lens with IS or equivalent.

I use the Canon 100-400mm IS and enjoy it very much. It is very sharp, and very versatile because of the zoom. The IS allows me to use it without a tripod. The lens is very compact for a 400, which makes it real easy to take along as hand baggage (along with other lenses and a body or two) on flights.


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Sep 25, 2014 02:42 |  #11

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Hello, and welcome. :)
Since you're new to photography/dSLR, i would suggest the Tamron 150-600VC. It's ~$1100US new, but stock is hard to find. If you can wait, i would go this route. The Canon EF 400/5.6L doesn't have image stabilization(IS), so keeping motion blur down is trickier.

If you want to do mainly bird-in-flight shots, then the 400/5.6 is hard to beat.. due to it's IQ(image quality)/super-fast auto focus(AF)/needing high shutter speeds anyways, which mitigates the stability(IS) issue somewhat.

I agree with that, as a beginner better to go with this kind of lens
I will recommend also to wait for the sigma 150-600mm to get out, to see the comparison between those lenses.
Do not be in hurry !!


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Sep 25, 2014 04:19 |  #12

Dabbs wrote in post #17176183 (external link)
Wow guys this is awesome info! Thank you so much, I think I got an real good deal with my camera I managed to get the 70D body canon 50mm 1.8 sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 and canon 18-55 with a 64gb SD card and canon case all for $1800, mad to think il be paying more for a single lens than the body and 3 lenses! Look forward to sharing my pictures and getting some advice on how to improve! Thanks once again

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Sep 25, 2014 04:33 |  #13

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I'm sure they are sold by their weight not by the quality, it seems > more they are heavy > more they are expensive :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Sep 25, 2014 04:44 |  #14

Jiggo0109 wrote in post #17176138 (external link)
I also see some bird photographers in my place using this lens with 2X extender. I am not a birdy one, so I do not know the effect on this. :)

Won't autofocus with most bodies at f/8.




  
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Sep 25, 2014 06:40 |  #15

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I'm sure they are sold by their weight not by the quality, it seems > more they are heavy > more they are expensive :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not sure about that, this bugger is quite small and light, but holy moly, the price tag...

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But generally yes, you are probably more correct than otherwise. :)


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