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Sep 25, 2014 08:20 |  #1

I make a moderate amount of money from event photography and weddings, and a decent bit from selling calendars at the end of the year.
I currently shoot with a 6D, 24-70 and 70-200 F2.8's and (50mm), and generally borrow a low end rebel body from friends when doing wedding etc.
Although it won't make me any money, wildlife and sport photography is something I'd really like to start doing.

It's about time I get a second body instead of borrowing one all the time, and am looking at two set ups.
Buy a 5dm3 to supplement my 6D for events, and get a 7Dmk2 to play around with for some wildlife stuff. Those two bodies together will be about $6.5k here in New Zealand which lead me to my second option, just get at 1Dx for around $7.4k.

Both options have some pro's and cons, 1Dx for example has slightly better high ISO then the 5d, and most likely will be a lot better then the 7d in terms of IQ.

Getting the 5d and 7d however, the 7d has better auto focusing system, and some new features that aren't present on the 1Dx, and together their about $1k cheaper. The 7d also has more reach then the 1dx for wildlife.

I'm also going to be getting some new glass either way, probably a Canon 16-35 F4, and the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 Sport.

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Sep 25, 2014 08:24 |  #2

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Sep 25, 2014 08:46 |  #3

7D2 and a few new lenses. No need for a 5D3 in my opinion.

Ask yourself if you REALLY need a 1DX. What are it's advantages over a 7D2 that you will seriously think you would miss?

Or, possibly sell the 6D and get the 5D3 + 7D2 (and more glass). It's hard to hang 3 bodies from yourself.

But if I had to only pick from your listed choices I would go 1DX also.


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Sep 25, 2014 08:52 |  #4

What type of wildlife will you be looking to shooting? If your main focus is on the wild friends of the larger variety (bears, deer, etc) then I would imagine that a 1DX and the Sigma 120-300 with a little bit of cropping now and then should serve you very well. If you're trying to do birding and other smaller creatures with 300mm and the 1DX, you may often find yourself lacking the reach you will need to capture the little guys. So if you want it all, then I would do 6d+5d3+7d2 just for the extra reach and body performance that you'll get out of your lenses. It seems like the most versatile setup for your needs with the business and interests in mind. The 1DX option though is very good in that you'll get a solid body that should serve you well enough for just about anything you want to shoot for years to come.


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Sep 25, 2014 11:02 |  #5

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #17176771 (external link)
7D2 and a few new lenses. No need for a 5D3 in my opinion.

Ask yourself if you REALLY need a 1DX. What are it's advantages over a 7D2 that you will seriously think you would miss?

Or, possibly sell the 6D and get the 5D3 + 7D2 (and more glass). It's hard to hang 3 bodies from yourself.

Not a lot really, just that those options where similar price. Also I wouldn't be using all three body's at once, it would be the two full frames for events, and just the 7d for wildlife (with possibly the 6d as well for landscapes).

outmywindow wrote in post #17176787 (external link)
What type of wildlife will you be looking to shooting? If your main focus is on the wild friends of the larger variety (bears, deer, etc) then I would imagine that a 1DX and the Sigma 120-300 with a little bit of cropping now and then should serve you very well. If you're trying to do birding and other smaller creatures with 300mm and the 1DX, you may often find yourself lacking the reach you will need to capture the little guys. So if you want it all, then I would do 6d+5d3+7d2 just for the extra reach and body performance that you'll get out of your lenses. It seems like the most versatile setup for your needs with the business and interests in mind. The 1DX option though is very good in that you'll get a solid body that should serve you well enough for just about anything you want to shoot for years to come.

I could use a 1.4x or 2x with the 1Dx, but at the same time I could do the same with the 7d for even more reach, and it would mostly be birds probably so the crop factor of the 7d would be handy there. The other-side is simplicity of two FF bodies over 3 mixed crop and FF bodies, and the 1d is super tough etc and far better IQ then the 7D2 is likely to be.


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Sep 25, 2014 11:06 |  #6

I would say pick 7dmk2 and add more lenses. I might even do older 7d unless I was shooting night time games. 120-300mm is nice. For wildlife I will look at bigger superteles or cheaper tamron 150-600mm based on the budget.


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Sep 25, 2014 17:10 |  #7

Why not just keep your 6D and get a 7DII for a backup and for birding? Although a 7D won't have the low light capabilities of the 5DIII the money you save could be spent on lenses. Possibly a better way would be get the 5DIII and a 1.4 extender. You wouldn't miss much on reach with the extender and the 5D and you would still have more money to spend on lenses.


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Sep 25, 2014 17:18 |  #8

6D + 7D2. Done.


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Sep 25, 2014 18:28 |  #9

Tony_Stark wrote in post #17177707 (external link)
6D + 7D2. Done.

6D matches the 70D though. If you are doing events it may be beneficial to have two bodies that match damn near identical = 5D3/7D2... even the orginal 7D closely resembles the 5D3.


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Sep 25, 2014 18:35 |  #10

Talley wrote in post #17177820 (external link)
6D matches the 70D though. If you are doing events it may be beneficial to have two bodies that match damn near identical = 5D3/7D2... even the orginal 7D closely resembles the 5D3.

"matches"? What is he a camera supermodel? Where is it written that these 2 "match" and other combos are less compatible? 6d autofocus can focus in lower light and the sensor is a bit better than 5d3. Maybe the man needs that, he does weddings...

6d and 7d complement each other just fine. The 7d beats out the rebel you borrow by a lot. It would have a purpose in wedding work and would be great for sports and wildlife.


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Sep 25, 2014 18:55 |  #11

In your position I would likely just buy the 7d2 when it's out if it turns out to be a good camera. You say the 1dx has better iso then the 5d3, but so does the 6d, but they are all good.

My first choice, not on your list though would be a well cared for 1d4, f8, little crop factor, speed, price and ability to buy extra lenses with money left over.


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Sep 25, 2014 18:59 |  #12

Talley wrote in post #17177820 (external link)
6D matches the 70D though. If you are doing events it may be beneficial to have two bodies that match damn near identical = 5D3/7D2... even the orginal 7D closely resembles the 5D3.

To each their own, but I dont agree. Yes it may be easier to have 2 identical bodies, but if you spend enough time with each, you become used to it. Canon cameras are rather identical in terms of button layout. Personally I hate the way the buttons feel on the 70D compare to my 6D so I would hate to have that as a secondary. 7D felt very similar to my 5D2 and 6D and had no issues going between the 2 when I used them simultaneously.


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Sep 25, 2014 19:44 |  #13

Why not wait to see what the new 5D mrk 4 or the 1DX 2 will be like, believe they will be on the market early 2015. Might make for some nice deals on 5D3 and 1DX, new and used, I know I will make the jump from my 1DX to 1DX2


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Sep 26, 2014 00:32 |  #14

TJays wrote in post #17177913 (external link)
Why not wait to see what the new 5D mrk 4 or the 1DX 2 will be like, believe they will be on the market early 2015. Might make for some nice deals on 5D3 and 1DX, new and used, I know I will make the jump from my 1DX to 1DX2

This is definitely a thought I've had, all sources point to early next year. The downside to waiting is a large portion of my work comes from about now until March, that being said, I've managed just fine up until now.

Sparky98 wrote in post #17177697 (external link)
Why not just keep your 6D and get a 7DII for a backup and for birding? Although a 7D won't have the low light capabilities of the 5DIII the money you save could be spent on lenses. Possibly a better way would be get the 5DIII and a 1.4 extender. You wouldn't miss much on reach with the extender and the 5D and you would still have more money to spend on lenses.

My main concern is that the 7D won't be good enough for low light, the main reason I would like two bodies for events is so I'm not switching the 24-70 and 70-200 back and forth on my 6D

This is the main reason I'm not sure the 7D will be good enough, this is from a recent event I did:

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12800ISO is probably pushing a 7D?

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Sep 26, 2014 01:14 |  #15

12800 on the 7D would be a real challenge to clean up, at least for medium/large prints. The other option is to shoot with faster lenses (f/1.4-1.8) to drop the ISO down, but you'd be ditching the versatility of a zoom to do so.


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