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Sep 26, 2014 09:12 |  #46

If Canon put the sensor in, I wouldn't worry one bit about it. Does the seller have a repair invoice from Canon? You'll love that Σ zoom on full frame.




  
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Sep 26, 2014 09:13 |  #47

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I bought 6D as my first FF and love it.

Ditto!

So just in case everyone before me has not swayed your opinion... just get the 6D!

And as somebody had mentioned before look at a Canon refurb. If you can a few months then Black Friday is the time to buy a body. I picked mine up a year ago for super cheap.


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Sep 26, 2014 09:31 |  #48

reyces wrote in post #17174512 (external link)
Hi James,

I'm using Lightroom 5 to fix the noise on the pictures and yes, I always shoot in RAW.

I've been reading that some people got a "bad" 7D, because they have the same issue, when they reach ISO 400 or above they start to get a lot of noise on their pictures. I saw a lot of examples of pictures with ISO 400 or higher and those pics look really bad like my pictures.

I have another wedding to cover in Nov and I don't want to have this stress :rolleyes:

I know, the 6d looks amazing.

Thanks!

ISO 6400 can be a bit challenging, I would say, not 400. Here is one from the 7D with no NR, in low light. This would be what you would probably get within the reception area at the wedding. At the last reception, I had to shoot at ISO 10000/16000 on the 5D3. What fun that was. :)

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Sep 26, 2014 11:03 |  #49

reyces wrote in post #17168222 (external link)
Its true, I've been using LR to improve the quality of the images from my last weeding but I'm not happy at all with the 7d performance.

I think I will need to think seriously about the 6d, I really appreciate all your advices.

Regarding the speed 1/4000 I'm fine with that, because most of my work is indoor, for that reason I'm very interested in ISO performance.

Somehow wonderful images were taken with 1/2000 shutter speed, back in the day. Get the 6D. You will not be disappointed. I have used mine, in spite of the many naysayers, for weddings, sports, portrait images, and never felt under equipped. The only ND filter I own is a variable, screw-in ND filter, which hasn't been out of my camera bag since getting the 6D. Personally, I have have never missed a shot because of lack of 1/8000 shutter speed or horribly inferior, as seen by some, auto focus system. Usually, the negatives come from people who have never owned one, or someone who's dream camera is something else. The camera produces some very beautiful images, as long as the photographer does his/her part.




  
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Sep 26, 2014 11:22 |  #50

reyces wrote in post #17174512 (external link)
Hi James,

I'm using Lightroom 5 to fix the noise on the pictures and yes, I always shoot in RAW.

I've been reading that some people got a "bad" 7D, because they have the same issue, when they reach ISO 400 or above they start to get a lot of noise on their pictures. I saw a lot of examples of pictures with ISO 400 or higher and those pics look really bad like my pictures.

I have another wedding to cover in Nov and I don't want to have this stress :rolleyes:

I know, the 6d looks amazing.

Thanks!

The 6D can produce great images just as the 7D can produce great images. I'm wondering if the noise you're seeing at ISO 400 is only after you bump up shadow levels in LR. I looked at some photos at your website, and I'd say many of them don't have a full contrast range. If your expsosure is underexposed, then you won't have as much contrast in your RAW to work with. If you bump up your shadows, you'll also see more noise. All Canons exhibit some noise post processing the deep shadows, so it's best to expose to the right.


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Sep 26, 2014 11:24 |  #51

GotNoCents wrote in post #17174635 (external link)
my 6d just arrived yesterday. very impressed with the high iso shots(as expected) :)


Really? that's awesome!! If everything is fine, I will buy the 6d this next Monday night.

Thanks for the update!!


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Sep 26, 2014 11:28 |  #52

sega62 wrote in post #17174656 (external link)
+1 on that.
Please get the 6d, its on sale everywhere, and you will be the first to use it, its always great to open and discover a product.
Usuallyi get my gear from B&h, and while unpacking, i get a beer and celebrate my new camera.
Dont get a use one, there is a few advantages with the 6d.

That's 100% true... nothing better than open a new toy! ...
Thanks for the advice! I will for sure!


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Sep 26, 2014 11:29 |  #53

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The 6D will give you about 2 stops in improvement, so take whatever the highest ISO you shoot at now which you are comfortable with, and add 2 stop, the 6D images will look very similar.

Awesome is good to know know that!!

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Sep 26, 2014 11:30 |  #54

01erionracing wrote in post #17178624 (external link)
I bought 6D as my first FF and love it.

Really? that's great. I can't wait to get mine soon!!


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Sep 26, 2014 11:31 |  #55

deanedward wrote in post #17178632 (external link)
I've read it a bunch of times in this thread and I just want to make sure...

sensors can be replaced nowadays? I thought t was the shutter assembly that they replace.

That's a good question, maybe someone can help us with this info. ;)


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Sep 26, 2014 11:34 |  #56

szdfhsth wrote in post #17178670 (external link)
If Canon put the sensor in, I wouldn't worry one bit about it. Does the seller have a repair invoice from Canon? You'll love that Σ zoom on full frame.

He said was Canon but he already sold that camera, but for the future I will ask for Canon invoice in advance.

In this case, I go for 6d!


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Sep 26, 2014 11:37 |  #57

Yes, sensors can be replaced.


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Sep 26, 2014 11:37 |  #58

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #17178673 (external link)
Ditto!

So just in case everyone before me has not swayed your opinion... just get the 6D!

And as somebody had mentioned before look at a Canon refurb. If you can a few months then Black Friday is the time to buy a body. I picked mine up a year ago for super cheap.

Thanks!! I will.... If everything is fine I will order mine this Monday, I saw on lightingromours yesterday at night an offer on eBay $1,447 for a new one, but all the sellers from East Coast are on vacation even BH, so I have to wait :(

I can't wait until black friday, because I have a wedding that day! :)


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Sep 26, 2014 12:15 |  #59

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ISO 6400 can be a bit challenging, I would say, not 400. Here is one from the 7D with no NR, in low light. This would be what you would probably get within the reception area at the wedding. At the last reception, I had to shoot at ISO 10000/16000 on the 5D3. What fun that was. :)

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I got this kind of noise with ISO 800.

I know haha... the 5dmk3 is amazing but the problem is too expensive :oops: maybe in my next life haha...

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Sep 26, 2014 12:19 |  #60

eddieb1 wrote in post #17178854 (external link)
Somehow wonderful images were taken with 1/2000 shutter speed, back in the day. Get the 6D. You will not be disappointed. I have used mine, in spite of the many naysayers, for weddings, sports, portrait images, and never felt under equipped. The only ND filter I own is a variable, screw-in ND filter, which hasn't been out of my camera bag since getting the 6D. Personally, I have have never missed a shot because of lack of 1/8000 shutter speed or horribly inferior, as seen by some, auto focus system. Usually, the negatives come from people who have never owned one, or someone who's dream camera is something else. The camera produces some very beautiful images, as long as the photographer does his/her part.

Great thanks for this info and honestly I never shot before at 1/8000 or something like that because I'm not into sports.

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