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THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE WANTS TO FINE YOU $1,000 FOR TAKING PICTURES IN THE FOREST

 
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Sep 26, 2014 08:23 |  #16

moose10101 wrote in post #17178584 (external link)
Hasn't that permit process for commercial shoots been in place for National Parks for years? I don't see what the problem is.

I agree....


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Sep 26, 2014 08:44 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #17

here is the actual information from the Forest Service:

https://www.federalreg​ister.gov …ource=federalre​gister.gov (external link)

It seems that the purpose with this proposed directive is to explore the issue further and then set in place rules for the wilderness.

Notice Of Proposed Directive; Request For Public Comment.

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The Forest Service proposes to incorporate interim directive (ID) 2709.11-2013.1 into Forest Service Handbook (FSH) 2709.11, chapter 40 to make permanent guidance for the evaluation of proposals for still photography and commercial filming on National Forest System Lands. The proposed amendment would address the establishment of consistent national criteria to evaluate requests for special use permits on National Forest System (NFS) lands. Specifically, this policy provides the criteria used to evaluate request for special use permits related to still photography and commercial filming in congressionally designated wilderness areas. Public comment is invited and will be considered in the development of the final directive.


as far as this only pertaining to designated wilderness areas, i see no reason one area should be more or less restricted than another. Consistency makes sence here. I also hope that they recognize the difference between one or two people walking into the woods with a backpack full of gear and a group of 10 going in and setting up C-stands, huge reflectors, booms, mics etc. Regardless if the intent is commercial or not.


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Sep 26, 2014 08:51 |  #18

Unbelievable.


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Sep 26, 2014 09:01 as a reply to  @ njstacker22's post |  #19

for anyone that missed it above, the other thread has a lot of info:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1399506


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Sep 26, 2014 12:09 |  #20

Some folks, including a whole lot in media, are really good at pushing our righteous-indignation buttons! :eek:


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Sep 26, 2014 15:01 as a reply to  @ Tedder's post |  #21

And some folks get righteously indignant about almost anything, even almost nothing.




  
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Sep 26, 2014 16:31 |  #22

20droger wrote in post #17179265 (external link)
And some folks get righteously indignant about almost anything, even almost nothing.

I just saw this policy mentioned in a blog entry titled "War on Photography."

The blogger was certifiably indignant, and his indignation is spreading.


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Sep 26, 2014 19:11 |  #23

Tedder wrote in post #17179423 (external link)
I just saw this policy mentioned in a blog entry titled "War on Photography."

The blogger was certifiably indignant, and his indignation is spreading.

Proof that stupidity is contagious.




  
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Sep 26, 2014 19:21 |  #24

I guess that maybe I'm righteously indignant about something, except today my Daughter took off for like four days with two of my cameras to do some wedding shoots, what should I do? Should I call 911? Call the cops? Help, I just want to go back to bed!!


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Sep 26, 2014 20:46 |  #25

tonylong wrote in post #17179633 (external link)
I guess that maybe I'm righteously indignant about something, except today my Daughter took off for like four days with two of my cameras to do some wedding shoots, what should I do? Should I call 911? Call the cops? Help, I just want to go back to bed!!

If she crossed state lines go straight to the FBI. That sort of thing cant be tolerated.




  
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Sep 27, 2014 09:36 |  #26

tonylong wrote in post #17179633 (external link)
I guess that maybe I'm righteously indignant about something, except today my Daughter took off for like four days with two of my cameras to do some wedding shoots, what should I do? Should I call 911? Call the cops? Help, I just want to go back to bed!!

She took your cameras?!! Without permission?!!

Some things are sacred! Time to cut her out of the will!!!




  
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Sep 27, 2014 14:24 |  #27

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She took your cameras?!! Without permission?!!

Some things are sacred! Time to cut her out of the will!!!

Well, dang, the problem was that I was having physical problems, still am, but she takes off on this call to do a wedding, and needs my input, and I can barely make it out to sit at the dang table, WoW!!!!


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Sep 27, 2014 14:33 |  #28

I wonder why the media would have a vested interest in getting us to fight their fight for them. Perhaps they feel there should be no consequence for them traipsing through wilderness areas with large crews and no intent on cleaning up after themselves.




  
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Sep 27, 2014 16:26 |  #29

WhidbeyHiker wrote in post #17180670 (external link)
I wonder why the media would have a vested interest in getting us to fight their fight for them. Perhaps they feel there should be no consequence for them traipsing through wilderness areas with large crews and no intent on cleaning up after themselves.

I think you read too much into the media agenda. They have a goal of telling the story in basic terms and to drive traffic to their site. Its called click bait.




  
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Sep 27, 2014 16:54 |  #30

gonzogolf wrote in post #17180831 (external link)
I think you read too much into the media agenda. They have a goal of telling the story in basic terms and to drive traffic to their site. Its called click bait.

I'll agree that there is a element of both.




  
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