Just read some other people saying it loses a t stop at the long end.. Anyone have experience with this? If so will the exposure meter realize this and compensate?
78962 Member 154 posts Joined Mar 2014 More info | Sep 30, 2014 18:37 | #1 Permanent banJust read some other people saying it loses a t stop at the long end.. Anyone have experience with this? If so will the exposure meter realize this and compensate?
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Sep 30, 2014 19:48 | #3 Permanent banDreDaze wrote in post #17186909 i don't see why it would... transmission issues with many lenses apparently.
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JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" More info | Sep 30, 2014 20:43 | #5 No. I actually checked a number of Canon lenses for differences in transmission, and the best of all that I owned was the 85L II which was less than 1/6th of a stop and the worst was the 70-200/2.8 IS which was close to 1/3 stop. The 24-105L is in the same 1/3 stop range. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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Sep 30, 2014 20:44 | #6 If you believe the DxOMark website, http://www.dxomark.com …-4L-IS-USM---Measurements Canon 80D, 60D, Canon 10-22EFs, 15-85EFS IS, Sigma 100-400, Sigma 135/1.8ART, Sigma 30mm f/1.4DC, Canon 60mm EFs Macro, Rokinon 8mm fisheye, 550EX flash, Olympus TG6 underwater P&S
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An odd question perhaps, but I wonder if I have an inkling where this is coming from. Edward Jenner
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Oct 01, 2014 02:07 | #8 Larger FOV captures more light in general. Smaller FOV captures a tiny scene with less light. It's not the lens. It's the light upon the scene. A7rIII | A7III | 12-24 F4 | 16-35 GM | 28-75 2.8 | 100-400 GM | 12mm 2.8 Fisheye | 35mm 2.8 | 85mm 1.8 | 35A | 85A | 200mm L F2 IS | MC-11
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msowsun "approx 8mm" More info | Oct 01, 2014 13:46 | #9 I first noticed this when shooting video. It does get darker when you zoom from 24 to 105 but I can't say exactly how much. I would estimate 1/2 to 2/3 EV. Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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Oct 01, 2014 14:24 | #10 msowsun wrote in post #17188268 I first noticed this when shooting video. It does get darker when you zoom from 24 to 105 but I can't say exactly how much. I would estimate 1/2 to 2/3 EV. I don't notice it if I shoot wide open at f/4 but it is very noticeable at f/8 Here is a video sample: http://youtu.be/52qMoI3K1RE again every lens will do that. You are capturing less light from the scene. an area the size of a stamp only reflects so much light.... an area the size of a paper reflects more light even though the ambient light has not changed. A7rIII | A7III | 12-24 F4 | 16-35 GM | 28-75 2.8 | 100-400 GM | 12mm 2.8 Fisheye | 35mm 2.8 | 85mm 1.8 | 35A | 85A | 200mm L F2 IS | MC-11
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msowsun "approx 8mm" More info | Oct 01, 2014 14:27 | #11 I am not convinced..... Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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msowsun "approx 8mm" More info | Oct 01, 2014 15:10 | #12 Here is another Video shooter who notices the same thing: http://briancweed.com …e-canon-24-105-f4-is-lens Transmittance - now here's where things get really weird. The transmission of the zoom is just a hair more than 2/3 of a stop darker than it's advertised aperture through these three focal lengths when aperture is wide open at F4. Oddly enough, at F4, there is ZERO transmission loss through the entire zoom range. If you stop down, though - even to just F4.5 - you'll begin to lose almost half a stop from widest to telephoto. By the time you stop down to F5.6, you'll be losing almost a whole stop by zooming from 24mm to 105mm! It's the weirdest thing, and I can't figure out what's going on to make that happen. By all means, go test this for yourself with a white card - set your in-cam waveform for spot and watch what happens to that area. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw it happening. Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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RMH Goldmember 1,000 posts Likes: 39 Joined Jan 2011 Location: Canterbury More info | Oct 01, 2014 15:23 | #13 Talley wrote in post #17188352 again every lens will do that. You are capturing less light from the scene. an area the size of a stamp only reflects so much light.... an area the size of a paper reflects more light even though the ambient light has not changed.
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Oct 01, 2014 15:27 | #14 I'm sure you can meter a white wall or something. All I know is Aperture is only the technical opening. Transmission can differ based on glass elements and coatings. My 50 1.2 L didnt transmit 1.2 in light, maybe 1.4 in light levels. Sony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
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Oct 01, 2014 16:05 | #15 RMH wrote in post #17188454 This is why f shop is a function of focal length -- if the apeture is 6mm wide @ f4 @ 24mm and 26.25mm wide @ f4 @ 105mm -- as you rightly say, you've chucked away much of the scene, but then the apeture is physically bigger to make up for that. That's why we use f stops not apeture diameters - f4 is the same amount of light, regardless of focal length. I've not watched the videos but i'd guess what's more likely happening is that the cameras meter is guessing a different exposure for the zoomed in scene, which is understandable -- cameras meters are not perfect. Try doing the same thing with the camera on manual. Right metering. A7rIII | A7III | 12-24 F4 | 16-35 GM | 28-75 2.8 | 100-400 GM | 12mm 2.8 Fisheye | 35mm 2.8 | 85mm 1.8 | 35A | 85A | 200mm L F2 IS | MC-11
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