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Canon officially announces the 7D Mark II

 
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Oct 06, 2014 19:47 |  #1381

yes I think it does matter
a staged shoot over real live action in the field I think It makes a ton of difference
If PRM gives it cred in the field and it would make me better
I would greatly consider it
If I sold my 70d I could afford a 7DII


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Oct 06, 2014 20:25 |  #1382

burnet44 wrote in post #17197882 (external link)
yes I think it does matter
a staged shoot over real live action in the field I think It makes a ton of difference
If PRM gives it cred in the field and it would make me better
I would greatly consider it
If I sold my 70d I could afford a 7DII

Lots of assumptions, and it probably was a staged game, but it was a game, I am quite sure. I am sure a sports illustrated photographer would rather shoot a staged game than to just tell some models to do some actions. He isn't a model photographer, but a sports photographer. Trovati also did some action shots in a different video. Also, why stage models? The 7D could shoot a volleyball game. I just care about what he says about the camera, and could care less about some stills he shot during the game.


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Oct 06, 2014 20:52 |  #1383

If you have watched any AVP Beach Volleyball, and what self respecting male has not watched the women, I think the 3rd image is #1 ranked Kerri Walsh Jennings, and was 1/2 of the USA Olympic gold medal team for the USA in the past 3 Olympics. And the reflections in their sun glasses also shows extended action. The thing I saw in the video embedded images was that they are all tack sharp (of course I would not expect any published images from PRM that were not) and if you pause that video you can see one of the women needs to shave her pits... :shock:

All in all from his comments (even as a "paid Canon shooter") and the images of what looks like a later afternoon volleyball session, I see nothing so far to knock this camera.


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Oct 06, 2014 20:57 |  #1384

Here is Trovati using the 7D2, and he zooms in on the water droplets in one of the photos.
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=NKxeKh14E_M (external link)

Shutter at 10fps sounds great, and I detect no issues in slowdown due to dark metering like the 7D has.


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Oct 06, 2014 22:11 |  #1385

iso 640
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1/1600

iso 800
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1/1250

iso 640
f 5.6
1/1250

iso 1600
f 6.3
1/80 sitting

I think this shows more focus and fps than ISO
It was cloudy so you dont have much shadows
but its lower light than the beach vb

I like the erratic focus
its looking better for me
maybe


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Oct 06, 2014 23:40 |  #1386

burnet44 wrote in post #17197862 (external link)
and the spike with the forearm isnt how they spike in vb IMHO

that spike looks like a serve to me...


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Oct 06, 2014 23:54 |  #1387

hand not forearm


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Oct 07, 2014 00:45 |  #1388

Im closing in on 1000 bucks for this fb season
Imagine what I could sell if I was as good as you guys

before you guys get all slappy and pat me on the back
they just want a shot of their kids
even crappy ones
I have access so I can get closer

junior high especially the b teams and linemen are gold for me now
but as you all know the creek can go dry instantly
but Ill ride the wave til it dies

thanks to all of you for all your help making me better

Maybe I can just buy the 7d2 outright and keep the 70d for backup
I got a 1d2 and 40d collecting dust
the 40d was a real horse never let me down 120k on it and 1 trip to cps
and Im not good enough with the 1d2 but its a tank

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Oct 07, 2014 01:34 |  #1389

gjc10212 wrote in post #17155118 (external link)
Can I be the first to say fail! Crop sensor in a 5D3 body and 2k. Can't see this selling well unless it doesn't get a refresh for over 5 years.


Are you kidding me !!! Performing level to a 5DIII with a crop sensor would be a HUGE gain not a fail !!!


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Oct 07, 2014 02:59 |  #1390

Apologies if this has already been posted - I didn't see it and there are a huge amount of posts in this thread to look through!.

An interview with a head honcho at Canon about the 7D2....

http://www.dpreview.co​m …s-in-the-very-near-future (external link)


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Oct 07, 2014 06:03 |  #1391

RedRobin wrote in post #17198437 (external link)
...An interview with a head honcho at Canon about the 7D2....

http://www.dpreview.co​m …s-in-the-very-near-future (external link)

Interesting interview. Lots of "Maybe", "I don't know", "It's hard" but this really stood out.

canon wrote:
Canon released two cameras at Photokina - the EOS 7D Mark II and PowerShot G7X. One thing we’ve learned is that the sensor in the G7X is not made by Canon. Does this represent a new philosophy at Canon?

We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy.

If that's their policy why do we not have a camera with a Exmore yet?


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Oct 07, 2014 07:22 |  #1392

gjl711 wrote in post #17198572 (external link)
Interesting interview. Lots of "Maybe", "I don't know", "It's hard" but this really stood out.
If that's their policy why do we not have a camera with a Exmore yet?

Brand new policy, so no new DSLRs since that policy went into effect?

Or maybe Sony won't sell them to Canon. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Nikon's contract with Sony stipulated that Sony can't sell the same sensors to Canon that they do to Nikon.

And of course you have to define "better" too. The Exmore sensors are not better in all ways than Canon's are, so they will have to decide which characteristics are most important for which bodies. For the 7DII's target audience of sports and wildlife shooters, ISO noise is more important than DR, and Canon's sensors generally lead in that area.


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Oct 07, 2014 08:31 |  #1393

archer1960 wrote in post #17198675 (external link)
...And of course you have to define "better" too. The Exmore sensors are not better in all ways than Canon's are, so they will have to decide which characteristics are most important for which bodies. For the 7DII's target audience of sports and wildlife shooters, ISO noise is more important than DR, and Canon's sensors generally lead in that area.

But according to Mr. Canon, the 7D isn't a sport/wildlife camera. That's something we here at POTN seem to have tagged the camera with. My Canon says:

mr Canon wrote:
How would you characterize the typical EOS 7D owner?

The user profile of 7D owners is ‘high amateur’ and enthusiasts who want high framerates and professional photographers who want a lightweight, fast camera. And also anyone who doesn’t want to carry something big and heavy.


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Oct 07, 2014 08:58 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #1394

..."want high framerates" ... "want a fast camera"...

Where in these quotes do you see something which doesn't fit into a sports camera?


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Oct 07, 2014 09:11 |  #1395

crawfishing?


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