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6D or 5D Mark III for Portraits

 
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Oct 08, 2014 10:10 |  #16

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An EG-S screen is a huge help for that (something you can't get in the 5D3).


The 5D4 will change that, you will be able to use those AF screens again. The AF screens are still in the 5D3, 70D, 7D, etc. they are just locked behind a frame that has 2 screws in it. You can pull it out and use others, but it isn't as easy as unclasping the screen holder.

Since the 7D informed the 5D3 in some ways, the 7D2 will inform the 5D4.


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Oct 08, 2014 10:41 |  #17

In answering the OP's question "6D or 5DIII for Portraits", I will say 6D. It seems like it only took a few posts for this thread to (again) turn into a "6D AF system is garbage" thread :)
I'll repeat myself and say 6D for portraits. Spend the difference on a nice lens. I've owned the 6D for about a year, shot many portrait sessions, engagement sessions, senior photos etc. and my outer points worked well, I used them all the time with my 85 1.8 wide open.

Now, if you expand the area of use to a dynamic, low light wedding for example, where things move quickly, then I'd say 5DIII. But for a slow paced portrait job, I'd spend my budget on a 6D and better lenses, instead of a 5DIII. That's just my opinion.


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Oct 08, 2014 11:28 |  #18

The 6D seems like a tripod camera where quick access to physical controls, AF points, is not much of a requirement.




  
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Oct 08, 2014 12:02 |  #19

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The 6D seems like a tripod camera where quick access to physical controls, AF points, is not much of a requirement.

??? I don't quite understand. I can actually switch from one AF point to another faster on the 6D than on my 5DIII


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Oct 08, 2014 12:06 |  #20

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I don't quite understand. I can actually switch from one AF point to another faster on the 6D than on my 5DIII

I meant AF points in general, the lack of them and the type they are. It is good that this camera meets your needs. I don't own it. Just an observer and thus why I did not buy it.




  
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Oct 08, 2014 12:46 |  #21

For starters 6d is good, very good.

If you can't buy nice lens then 6d with a nice lens. If you already got nice lens then 5dmk3. To me even for portraits with still subjects 5dmk3 with more points is better. I am not MF guy so rely on AF and to me AF with cross points better than one with horizontal or vertical orientations only like on 6d. Everyone is different. Only few here on this thread have tried both 6d and 5dmk3.

One more thing - Why not Sony with their 55mm and forget all this canon.:)


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Oct 08, 2014 23:06 |  #22

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For starters 6d is good, very good.

If you can't buy nice lens then 6d with a nice lens. If you already got nice lens then 5dmk3. To me even for portraits with still subjects 5dmk3 with more points is better. I am not MF guy so rely on AF and to me AF with cross points better than one with horizontal or vertical orientations only like on 6d. Everyone is different. Only few here on this thread have tried both 6d and 5dmk3.

One more thing - Why not Sony with their 55mm and forget all this canon.:)

Thinks 6D's AF is mediocre... suggests camera with worse AF and weak lens lineup.

I agree that their 55mm is nothing shy of amazing, but it's the only lens worth saying that for on that system, and not the best lens for portraiture to begin with due to the focal length.


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Oct 09, 2014 00:42 |  #23

I own both and I see no reason for you to buy the 5D3.

The 6D is a tremendous camera.


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Oct 09, 2014 04:16 |  #24

the focus system in the modern cameras became complicated and require experts to use it
not like the old cameras which is very easy and simple
i like it in the 6D , 5D2


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Oct 09, 2014 07:47 |  #25

moltengold wrote in post #17202978 (external link)
the focus system in the modern cameras became complicated and require experts to use it

I appreciate the compliment, moltengold, but I think it's a bit exaggerated. ;)




  
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Oct 09, 2014 09:14 |  #26

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My wife and I are looking into buying a new camera. In the past we have been taking primarily real estate related photos and my wife has started an infant/family photography business.

For the real estate photography I don't think there is a big difference (or not enough to justify the expense) between these two cameras but I'd like to get opinions about the differences for portrait photography.

When I look at a photo of a person or even an animal they eyes of the subject are what draws me in and would make me want to pay for the photo. With the larger number of focus spots with the 5D Mark III I'm wondering if that would make a substantial difference with respect to portraits? Would the ability to focus on the eyes make a difference or would we simply be spending ~$1,500 more for the same outcome?

Personally, I didn't have much hesitation. I jumped the gun and got two 5d mark 3's. The reason for me both my girlfriend and I agreed it would a better decision. After using it for about a week. I think the most complain that my girlfriend has is the weight. If your a family man, I think you and your wife would benefit from the 6d's light weight, full frame, and wifi. Your wife just started her business. So it would be beneficial for my practicality instead of personal interest. Plus, the 5d mark 3 is going to be replaced in 1-2 years. I think you would want more features from the updates model or get a cheaper price on the 5d mark 3. That's my two cents on your situation.
If your worried about picture quality it is really is minor. Like from what I see when I tried out a friend's 6d was 15%. It justify if you want to go big and not regret it later on the 5d mark 3. And with everyone else. Just get you can afford and get better lenses. That is more important.
Although you can get a 5d mark 3 for around 2500 out of the United States like how I got mine.




  
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Oct 09, 2014 09:23 |  #27

Using the same money, the 6D+Lenses is probably a better buy. For about the same price, you could get a 6D+135L+85 1.8. For RE, you won't care a much about the AF system.


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Oct 09, 2014 10:01 |  #28

aznkid248 wrote in post #17203317 (external link)
If your worried about picture quality it is really is minor. Like from what I see when I tried out a friend's 6d was 15%. It justify if you want to go big and not regret it later on the 5d mark 3. And with everyone else. Just get you can afford and get better lenses. That is more important.

The 5D for sure does not have better IQ even at a marginal level if that's what you're suggesting. In fact most argue the other way around. Personally to my eyes both cameras produce identical results.


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Oct 09, 2014 10:06 |  #29

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17202739 (external link)
Thinks 6D's AF is mediocre... suggests camera with worse AF and weak lens lineup.

I agree that their 55mm is nothing shy of amazing, but it's the only lens worth saying that for on that system, and not the best lens for portraiture to begin with due to the focal length.

Their focussing peaking is the best. :) Weak lens lineup I agree. But to someone starting, even someone who know what they doing with Sony just shoot and fix in pp.:) Sometimes I wonder why folks complain about its DR being an issue at higher ISOs. If you can recover 4-5 stops of under-exposure, why one needs to shoot at higher ISO?

Sorry I am getting off topic here and not helping the OP. For him/her, 6d, even older 5dc if money is an issue but add nicer glass.


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Oct 09, 2014 10:12 |  #30

bobbyz wrote in post #17203376 (external link)
Their focussing peaking is the best. :) Weak lens lineup I agree. But to someone starting, even someone who know what they doing with Sony just shoot and fix in pp.:) Sometimes I wonder why folks complain about its DR being an issue at higher ISOs. If you can recover 4-5 stops of under-exposure, why one needs to shoot at higher ISO?

Sorry I am getting off topic here and not helping the OP. For him/her, 6d, even older 5dc if money is an issue but add nicer glass.

The noise will still be better if you nail it at 1600 than shoot at 400 and pull it up two stops.


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