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I want to buy my first FF camera

 
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Oct 07, 2014 07:37 as a reply to  @ post 17198615 |  #106

Ok, I think I got it.. thanks for the link (in the process of reading). I do not currently use DPP - nor do I see the need at this point (although I can be convinced ;)).. I shoot in neutral and try not to add any camera "enhancements".. I do need to review my current LR settings though.. Thanks again


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Oct 07, 2014 07:49 |  #107

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Hi!

I want to buy my first FF camera so Ive been looking for a 5d Mk 2 (used) and today I found one that I liked it but it says the sensor has been replaced recently and now has about 50 shutter actuations.

For that reason I want to ask to all of you if is a good idea to buy a camera with a new sensor or buy one with about 45-60k shutter actuations.

I mean I would love to know the cons and pros about geting a camera with new sensor.

I will appreciate your advices, tips, etc.

Thanks and btw sorry for me English :oops:

You seem to be conflating sensors with shutters. A new sensor has nothing to do with how many shutter actuations it has, so are you sure it was the sensor rather than the shutter that was replaced?


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Oct 07, 2014 19:01 |  #108

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You seem to be conflating sensors with shutters. A new sensor has nothing to do with how many shutter actuations it has, so are you sure it was the sensor rather than the shutter that was replaced?

Interesting I didn't know that but for now I didn't buy that camera, I bought a 6D. But thanks for telling me about that.

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Oct 07, 2014 19:44 |  #109

reyces wrote in post #17200171 (external link)
Interesting I didn't know that but for now I didn't buy that camera, I bought a 6D. But thanks for telling me about that.

Thank you,

I'm guess that the one you were looking at had a shutter replaced. Shutters are mechanical, and thus are subject to wear and failure at pretty much any time. Replacing one is a relatively routine maintenance procedure. On the other hand, sensors have no moving parts, so if they don't fail in the first month or so, they probably never will.


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Oct 08, 2014 12:42 |  #110

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I'm guess that the one you were looking at had a shutter replaced. Shutters are mechanical, and thus are subject to wear and failure at pretty much any time. Replacing one is a relatively routine maintenance procedure. On the other hand, sensors have no moving parts, so if they don't fail in the first month or so, they probably never will.

Interesting information, thank you is good to know about that.


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Oct 08, 2014 12:54 |  #111

I've been looking at FF cameras too. One that impresses me is the Sony A7....think that's the model. New it's on sale in Canada for $ 1599. Considerably cheaper than Nikon or Canon FF. Also it uses the Sony Exmor sensor...same one as Nikon uses. The Sony Exmor is considered by many to be a great sensor.

Also with Sony you can by Zeiss lens made for Sony. However if you already have Canon lenses, you're probably better off to stay with Canon.




  
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Oct 08, 2014 13:55 |  #112

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I've been looking at FF cameras too. One that impresses me is the Sony A7....think that's the model. New it's on sale in Canada for $ 1599. Considerably cheaper than Nikon or Canon FF. Also it uses the Sony Exmor sensor...same one as Nikon uses. The Sony Exmor is considered by many to be a great sensor.

Also with Sony you can by Zeiss lens made for Sony. However if you already have Canon lenses, you're probably better off to stay with Canon.

That one looks good, I was thinking to buy a second camera and I would love to get a mirror less, this one could be a good choice. Thank you for the advice.


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Oct 09, 2014 01:45 |  #113

I took these pictures tonight in a local restaurant
Unedited pictures, opened and converted with DPP 4.0.2.0

ISO 3200

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Oct 10, 2014 15:51 |  #114

reyces wrote in post #17168072 (external link)
Thanks! Trust me I'm very disappointed with 7d performance, soft focus and a lot of noise.

I'm interested in a camera with a good ISO performance and you're right will be better to spend a little more for a new camera. Thanks for your advice.

If this is your experience with a 7D you may have a bad unit or are lacking knowing the fundamentals of photography including exposure.




  
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Oct 10, 2014 16:17 |  #115

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If this is your experience with a 7D you may have a bad unit or are lacking knowing the fundamentals of photography including exposure.

I think I have a bad unit because I've been reading a lot and I found some posts in different forums where people talk about the same issue, because my issue comes out when I use ISO 400 or higher.

Also I think I will need to learn more about fundamentals of photography just to to know that is not a "user error"

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Oct 10, 2014 16:57 |  #116

Iso 400 shouldn't be a noise issue for any aps-c camera made in the last 8 years.




  
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Oct 10, 2014 17:52 |  #117

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #17205889 (external link)
Iso 400 shouldn't be a noise issue for any aps-c camera made in the last 8 years.

Trust me, I'm not alone .. there is a lot of 7D users with the same issue.

Here I send a reference:
http://www.ephotozine.​com …--disappointed--91315/p-0 (external link)


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