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Oct 12, 2014 09:34 |  #1546

Geordie Amanda wrote in post #17208499 (external link)
Is that a wireless solution or just cable?

Wireless, using the TP-Link TL MR3040 router, £30 on Amazon, in fact Camranger are using a re-badged TP-Link TL MR3040 router ;)


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Oct 12, 2014 10:38 |  #1547

Joe52 wrote in post #17208519 (external link)
Wireless, using the TP-Link TL MR3040 router, £30 on Amazon, in fact Camranger are using a re-badged TP-Link TL MR3040 router ;)

Ah ha :)


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Oct 12, 2014 13:05 |  #1548

monkey44 wrote in post #17208291 (external link)
Might be small increments -- but it has GPS and a larger capacity (heavier?) battery. I'm guessing the actual 'body element' is the same, just the guts different. As you note, the buttons are nearly identical to the 5DM3 ... we're only talking .11 lbs (although that is 5%)

Wait, it's a different battery? I did not read that.. Oh no! :( :(

This is hardly the end of the world for most, but wow, I am so over whelmed with the amount of batteries I need to use now. There was a time when Canon had only TWO different batteries for all the current and past DSLRs.


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Oct 12, 2014 13:30 |  #1549

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17208800 (external link)
Wait, it's a different battery? I did not read that.. Oh no! :( :(

It can use a different battery, but it can also use the old LP-E6. The newer batt is higher capacity.


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Oct 12, 2014 13:51 |  #1550

hollis_f wrote in post #17208860 (external link)
It can use a different battery, but it can also use the old LP-E6. The newer batt is higher capacity.

Is the newer battery usable in cameras that use the LP-E6? If so, then the battery improvement is really worthwhile. But if the 7D2 is the only camera (for now) that can make use of the new battery, then the improvement, while useful for those with a 7D2, seems more for marketing purposes than anything else.


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Oct 12, 2014 13:55 |  #1551

hollis_f wrote in post #17208860 (external link)
It can use a different battery, but it can also use the old LP-E6. The newer batt is higher capacity.

Ahh, that's fine. They updated the BP511, and the 1D3 battery, and all was fine with the world! :)

Right now, if I were to use all my cameras, I need SIX chargers, with 7 kinds of battery. No two alike bodies use the same battery. It's sad, pathetic, hopeless.. :lol:


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Oct 12, 2014 13:56 |  #1552

Yes, I should have qualified that 'battery' statement ... the 7D2 can use same battery as 7D and 5DM3 (and others) but the new design has slightly more capacity.

Which means (I'm guessing here) that the new high capacity battery will also fit 7D and 5DM3 as well -- so, those that use flash or larger lenses might find that useful.




  
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Oct 12, 2014 13:57 |  #1553

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Is the newer battery usable in cameras that use the LP-E6? If so, then the battery improvement is really worthwhile. But if the 7D2 is the only camera (for now) that can make use of the new battery, then the improvement, while useful for those with a 7D2, seems more for marketing purposes than anything else.

I'm hoping it is like the updates I mention above, where capacity and in some cases communication is improved, but they are backward compatible. In the case of the 1D3 Vs. 1D4/1Dx battery, the changes also mean some small loss of information when used in the 1D3 charger, but functionally it's all good.


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Oct 12, 2014 14:25 |  #1554

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17208906 (external link)
Ahh, that's fine. They updated the BP511, and the 1D3 battery, and all was fine with the world! :)

Right now, if I were to use all my cameras, I need SIX chargers, with 7 kinds of battery. No two alike bodies use the same battery. It's sad, pathetic, hopeless.. :lol:

agree just like phones
they make you buy new chargers with each one just about
they are designed that way
more money


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Oct 12, 2014 14:30 |  #1555

Joe52 thanks big time for that link to the DSLR controller and TP-Link TL-MR3040. Seems a simple affordable solution to those (me included) who had wished the 7Dii (5Diii, others) had WiFi. The possibility of enhanced stability over in-camera WiFi (70D,6D) is a plus and I'm hoping by stability he means distance, because I've used both the 70D and 6D remotely many times and distance unless line of sight has been an issue. Now my philosophy as an age old backpacker is that anything carried has to have more than one use----so what other functionality can the MR3040 have? Regardless it is ordered via Amazon and thanks again for the heads up.


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Oct 12, 2014 15:04 |  #1556

monkey44 wrote in post #17208907 (external link)
Yes, I should have qualified that 'battery' statement ... the 7D2 can use same battery as 7D and 5DM3 (and others) but the new design has slightly more capacity.

Which means (I'm guessing here) that the new high capacity battery will also fit 7D and 5DM3 as well -- so, those that use flash or larger lenses might find that useful.

I believe this is correct (I read it on the internet - it must be!), the new battery is backwards compatible, the old one can be used too. Yippee!




  
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Oct 12, 2014 16:02 |  #1557

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All those show is a comparison of the two cameras' in-camera JPEG processing. They don't really tell us as much about the comparative image quality if shooting RAW and processing properly. You can download the RAW files from IR and do your own processing for what might be a more accurate comparison. Here's a comparison by TeamSpeed using the RAW files - https://photography-on-the.net …?p=17190415&pos​tcount=128

What they do tell you is the 7Dii files at ISO above 800 are going to need allot more PP just as the old 7D files did. The 7d ii will have a resolution advantage to some extent at low ISO but as the ISO climbs the 7d ii detail and sharpness decrease as compared to FF or 1.3 crop sensor in the1D bodies. Remember the 1D files will also improve with PP from the raw file. You are comparing the same type of output file from each of the cameras listed. Real world use will be interesting to read but I am expecting the conclusion to be the same. Lots of my wildlife shots are at higher ISO and sharpness at the pixel level is what allows a print to be enlarged successfully. It will be interesting to hear the results once the 7Dii gets into more people's hands.


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Oct 12, 2014 17:26 |  #1558

The batteries and chargers are forward and backwards compatible. The new battery is only nominally higher capacity than the current battery. But the shape is the same, so that they are fully interchangable.




  
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Oct 12, 2014 20:46 |  #1559

hil711 and Lester thanks for the GPS education.
Joe52, I just ordered the MR3040, looking forward to updating its firmware via DSLR contoller. I don't plan on remoting the 7Dii but should be a fun project getting them talking to each other.


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Oct 12, 2014 21:09 |  #1560

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Joe52 thanks big time for that link to the DSLR controller and TP-Link TL-MR3040. Seems a simple affordable solution to those (me included) who had wished the 7Dii (5Diii, others) had WiFi. The possibility of enhanced stability over in-camera WiFi (70D,6D) is a plus and I'm hoping by stability he means distance, because I've used both the 70D and 6D remotely many times and distance unless line of sight has been an issue. Now my philosophy as an age old backpacker is that anything carried has to have more than one use----so what other functionality can the MR3040 have? Regardless it is ordered via Amazon and thanks again for the heads up.

1. The developer has to make sure the firmware for the router will work with the 7d2.
2. The 7d2 uses USB 3.0, which might make the camranger-like solution difficult?


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