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Oct 13, 2014 00:37 |  #4936

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Oct 13, 2014 00:39 |  #4937

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Oct 13, 2014 10:39 |  #4938

I was wondering, with all things being basically equal, for teenage soccer matches and the desire to have the longest FL possible (being in the stands and all) is there a difference between the tamazooka and the 100-400? I am not sure I am willing to wait for the sigma version...or that I am willing to pay twice the price of the tamazooka for any upgrades it may offer.... in regatds to the 100-400..that would be with and without the x1.4 iii....


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Oct 13, 2014 11:22 |  #4939

ceriltheblade wrote in post #17210351 (external link)
I was wondering, with all things being basically equal, for teenage soccer matches and the desire to have the longest FL possible (being in the stands and all) is there a difference between the tamazooka and the 100-400? I am not sure I am willing to wait for the sigma version...or that I am willing to pay twice the price of the tamazooka for any upgrades it may offer.... in regatds to the 100-400..that would be with and without the x1.4 iii....

Well, the 100-400 with a 1.4xIII will be close to twice the price of the Tamzooka. If you need long and don't already have anything 400mm or longer, it's difficult to recommend anything but the Tamzooka unless you have the money for one of the bigger whites (400/4, etc).

The difference in IQ between the Tamzooka and the 100-400 is small, and I've seen reviews that go both ways once you add a 1.4x to the Canon. However, there are a few real differences: the Tamzooka's IS is better, the Canon is a push-pull rather than a turn to zoom, and I think the Canon focuses faster. So which one is better for you depends on what you like, but for shooting from the stands, I'd take the Tamzooka.


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Oct 13, 2014 11:36 |  #4940

archer1960 wrote in post #17210427 (external link)
Well, the 100-400 with a 1.4xIII will be close to twice the price of the Tamzooka. If you need long and don't already have anything 400mm or longer, it's difficult to recommend anything but the Tamzooka unless you have the money for one of the bigger whites (400/4, etc).

The difference in IQ between the Tamzooka and the 100-400 is small, and I've seen reviews that go both ways once you add a 1.4x to the Canon. However, there are a few real differences: the Tamzooka's IS is better, the Canon is a push-pull rather than a turn to zoom, and I think the Canon focuses faster. So which one is better for you depends on what you like, but for shooting from the stands, I'd take the Tamzooka.

thanks for the answer. I would be comparing a new tamazooka vs an used 100-400 and X1.4 III in regards to price. I have played with the push-pull a slight bit, and while it was "different", it didn't bother me in the least. The classical twist method obviously doesn't either ! :)

I am glad to hear about the IQ as you mentioned.

I guess I am nervous on all lenses that aren't the great whites (I cannot and will not afford one of those) in regards to the amount of light they need to be "effective"
Luckily, my son right now will only play day games....woe be me, when they decide on night games!!! :) All of the lenses in this class seem to be light eating monsters!!!


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Oct 13, 2014 12:33 |  #4941

I'd recommend taking a monopod if you are going to the long end of the lens. I found that if you were tracking an object and therefore had the IS turned off, it was pretty hard to avoid a bit of blur caused by the 1.6 crop factor making the lens 960mm equivalent (I see you have a 7D too and assume you want to use that as you say you want the longest lens possible). I found that dropping the aperture to f8 (as is often recommended in reviews) the image is a bit sharper, but you really start to suffer with shutter speed then.

I mainly use longer lenses for shooting things like jetskis, kitesurfers and boats, which are mainly 2 dimensional in movement (OK kite suffers go up and down a bit too ) and the Tamron not having a panning mode is a little bit of a drawback. It looks like the new Sigma will have this though (although it's heavier, more expensive and I am guessing the UV filter would cost quite a bit of money as it's a bigger front element than the Tamron).

I wasn't able to try on properly before I bought it and even though it is a good value for money lens, I may have been better waiting for the Sigma (it wasn't announced when I got my Tamron) of even wait until the next Canon 100-400mm comes out (if I live that long). Definitely try this lens before you buy if it is at all possible. It's not a great sports lens unless you have a lot of light.


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Oct 13, 2014 13:17 |  #4942

ceriltheblade wrote in post #17210451 (external link)
thanks for the answer. I would be comparing a new tamazooka vs an used 100-400 and X1.4 III in regards to price. I have played with the push-pull a slight bit, and while it was "different", it didn't bother me in the least. The classical twist method obviously doesn't either ! :)

I am glad to hear about the IQ as you mentioned.

I guess I am nervous on all lenses that aren't the great whites (I cannot and will not afford one of those) in regards to the amount of light they need to be "effective"
Luckily, my son right now will only play day games....woe be me, when they decide on night games!!! :) All of the lenses in this class seem to be light eating monsters!!!

Yup! Getting a large aperture at this focal length takes a big front element, which means heavy and expensive if you want decent quality. Personally I like push-pull for its speed of operation, but can deal with turning if necessary.


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Oct 13, 2014 18:00 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #4943

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Oct 14, 2014 01:36 |  #4944

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Oct 14, 2014 10:57 |  #4945

ceriltheblade wrote in post #17210351 (external link)
I was wondering, with all things being basically equal, for teenage soccer matches and the desire to have the longest FL possible (being in the stands and all) is there a difference between the tamazooka and the 100-400? I am not sure I am willing to wait for the sigma version...or that I am willing to pay twice the price of the tamazooka for any upgrades it may offer.... in regatds to the 100-400..that would be with and without the x1.4 iii....

100-400 + 1.4x MkIII vs Tamzooka is not even a contest IMHO. You will need a rock solid tripod for that (Canon) combo. The Canon IS will not help you at all. You are probably up for a disappointing shoot. I think the Tamzooka could be the better choice.

Then again, given the poor lighting conditions at those type of events.....

If I were you I'd rent the gear and try. But I would not even bother using the 7D. Use your 5DIII. Much better results, I'd say.

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Oct 15, 2014 11:57 |  #4946

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Not the best shot it was cloudy and early am,Couple of deer in my drive about 80 yards away.
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Oct 15, 2014 15:23 |  #4947

Pretty darn good shot for handheld at 1/50th. I am waiting for the normal deer attach on my hedges this winter. We lost all of our evergreens due to the harsh Iowa winter last year. Lost about 10 along the back of the yard that had been going well for about 14 years. We will see if our replants make it through with the predictions that this year is going to be another cold winter.
Even considering getting a few bales of grass/hay to feed so they stay away from our evergreens. Or they will be drawn to them, either way I think we are out of luck.


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Oct 15, 2014 19:13 |  #4948

sirquack wrote in post #17214669 (external link)
Pretty darn good shot for handheld at 1/50th. I am waiting for the normal deer attach on my hedges this winter. We lost all of our evergreens due to the harsh Iowa winter last year. Lost about 10 along the back of the yard that had been going well for about 14 years. We will see if our replants make it through with the predictions that this year is going to be another cold winter.
Even considering getting a few bales of grass/hay to feed so they stay away from our evergreens. Or they will be drawn to them, either way I think we are out of luck.

Hi there and thanks,yea and with the high iso because it was cloudy I thought it did pretty good,And I have not the steadiest hands.:) But yup the Deer are thick here in NE IA Decorah area,they were munching on acorns in my driveway which is alright,better them than mice.
I hope you are wrong about the winter man!:lol: Last one was rough on everything.


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Oct 15, 2014 21:00 |  #4949

I just pressed the button on buy for this lens. I got it to use mainly on my 5DIII. My 7D is first generation one and aging with shutter button playing up and I figured the tamron 150-600 would a similar reach to my 7D with my 100-400L. So I'm hoping it will play nicely with my full frame. Not sure yet if I will upgrade the 7D to 7DII so in the mean time this is what I will be doing.


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Oct 16, 2014 08:00 |  #4950

No worries with the Tamzooka on FF. I have it mounted to my 6D, and the shots are amazing. No, I don't get the crop factor on FF, but coming from using my 70-200, the long end is just amazing and the lens provides more than fantastic IQ imho.


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