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Oct 19, 2014 16:11 |  #1

Well ive decided to take the 5D thats been offered to me so i can finally use a full frame camera and hopefully start shooting more again.

But now im thinking i might need to sort out my lens setup, Right now i have:

Canon 70-200L F4
Tamron 17-50 F2.8 (love this lens and considering keeping the 50D just for this)
Canon 50 F1.8

The main type of photography i want to move towards is portrait, so i think the 70-200 is good to stay, i never really like it so much on the crop body because 70mm always seemed too tight for indoors, so i went with the 17-50, then just got more comfortable with using the 17-50 most of the time. Maybe ill swap to the 70-200 2.8 (canon or sigma) if i start using it more.

Then Obviously the 17-50 will have to go if i get rid of my 50D so thatll need replacing, but i cant find any decent replacement, the Tamron 28-75 is nowhere near as sharp and everything else is 3 times the price, and im still working to a budget so want to avoid the expensive ones for now. This was by far the most used lens, and lived on the camera.

and finally the 50, it only ever really got used for macro with the close up filters i have, i just found that the 17-50 was sharper and more versatile so there was never really any need to have it on the camera for general shooting, but at the same time i would like a prime in my setup

So what 3 lens setup would you recommend for full frame on a budget, ideally with £200-300 on top of what i can sell the other stuff for


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Oct 19, 2014 16:14 |  #2

You really should consider the 85 1.8. Better build than your 50, quicker focusing, and a bettrr length for portraits.




  
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Oct 19, 2014 16:26 |  #3

gonzogolf wrote in post #17221818 (external link)
You really should consider the 85 1.8. Better build than your 50, quicker focusing, and a bettrr length for portraits.

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Oct 19, 2014 16:42 |  #4

Depending on available funds I would look at either the Canon 85 F1.8 or the 100 F2 - both are relatively cheap and great portrait lenses, for general use the 24-105 F4 L is great.


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Oct 19, 2014 17:48 |  #5

You may find that with your 70-200 and a FF camera, that's all you really need for portraits. If you do really need wider, the 50mm prime you have will probably suffice.

If you really do wind up shooting wider than 50mm for groups or something, then speed is probably not a huge issue and there are all kinds of choices from the 24-105L to the Tamron 28-75 that would do very well.


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Oct 19, 2014 21:13 |  #6

The 70-200 will come into its own on full frame - it is IMO a much more useful focal length there than on 1.6 crop.

That 50mm is not a very good lens but it *is* a normal lens, so try shooting with that where before you'd have used the 17-50.

In your shoes, I wouldn't spend the £200 immediately, but would shoot with the 50 and 70-200 for a while until I worked out whether I wanted a 16-35mm or 24-70mm lens. Even then, lighting might come before a wide (although 35mm is useful for groups and environmental portraits).

That leaves the 50D and 17-50mm f/2.8, which you could sell together as a viable kit. I doubt you'd get much used for a 50mm f/1.8.

There must be lots of used normal zooms (28-whatever) around from the film era. I don't know what their quality is because I didn't use Canon back then.




  
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Oct 19, 2014 22:23 |  #7

keep the 50/1.8, sell the tamron and get a 85/1.8 and a tamron 28-75/2.8. Solid kit right there. The 24-105 could be a nice option too, depends of what you shoot




  
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Oct 20, 2014 05:42 as a reply to  @ Rui Peixoto's post |  #8

I like my 85mm 1.8 lens, Its just a good all around lens.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:45 |  #9

+1 on the 85 f/1.8 along with the OP's 70-200 f4. Add a normal range zoom and all set. If budget is tight, consider the 40mm f2.8 pancake in place of the normal range zoom.


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Oct 20, 2014 07:10 |  #10

The 24-105 will be a good replacement for your 17-50; even though it's a stop slower it has IS and f/4 on a fullframe gives about the same depth of field as f/2.8 on a cropper. Getting the kit is a great deal; you could also just buy one on the used market. I also with the 85/1.8, it's a really good lens for portraits and natural light indoors


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Oct 20, 2014 07:46 |  #11

Rui Peixoto wrote in post #17222370 (external link)
keep the 50/1.8, sell the tamron and get a 85/1.8 and a tamron 28-75/2.8. Solid kit right there. The 24-105 could be a nice option too, depends of what you shoot

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Oct 20, 2014 07:54 as a reply to  @ titi_67207's post |  #12

I've just gone full frame, but the only EF-S lens i owned was the 18-55 EF-S IS lens which i liked because it was so small. the rest of my lenses were all EF as I've alway wanted to go full frame.

The 50 1.8 is a great lens on a full frame, but it is a little wide to be a good portrait lens on full frame. i prefer the 1.4 version as it has better AF and a nicer build, also has full time manual focussing. Also the 85mm is a superb lens and you will be really pleased with it.

As a walk about i chose in the end to go with the new 24-70mm f/4 IS L lens, I have never felt the need for f/2.8 zooms as they are so big and heavy, but i couldn't resist the IS on this lens. I got a really good deal with the 6D and this lens so my good intentions went out the window and I just handed my credit card over. no regrets either


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Oct 20, 2014 08:02 |  #13

Rui Peixoto wrote in post #17222370 (external link)
keep the 50/1.8, sell the tamron and get a 85/1.8 and a tamron 28-75/2.8. Solid kit right there. The 24-105 could be a nice option too, depends of what you shoot

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+1!

This is what I am using and it's a good set up. I also have the Tamron 70-200 2.8 vc, which I LOVE.


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Oct 21, 2014 02:13 |  #14

melcat wrote in post #17222253 (external link)
The 70-200 will come into its own on full frame - it is IMO a much more useful focal length there than on 1.6 crop.

That 50mm is not a very good lens but it *is* a normal lens, so try shooting with that where before you'd have used the 17-50.

In your shoes, I wouldn't spend the £200 immediately, but would shoot with the 50 and 70-200 for a while until I worked out whether I wanted a 16-35mm or 24-70mm lens. Even then, lighting might come before a wide (although 35mm is useful for groups and environmental portraits).

That leaves the 50D and 17-50mm f/2.8, which you could sell together as a viable kit. I doubt you'd get much used for a 50mm f/1.8.

There must be lots of used normal zooms (28-whatever) around from the film era. I don't know what their quality is because I didn't use Canon back then.


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Oct 21, 2014 14:52 |  #15

It may sound a bit mainstream and boring, but the 24-105mm is just so flippin' useful on full-frame that I can't see the point in not having one. But equally some of my best portraits were taken with the 24-105mm on my 50D (still used daily) a few years ago before I got FF. The combo has a certain unique quality in my opinion.

I'd suggest a white-box 24-105mm and hold on to the 50D, which is a great camera in its own right and which you'll regret selling.




  
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