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Oct 22, 2014 09:23 |  #1

I've recently done some work for a local law firm. When they have important guests in, they have asked me to come in and take a few photos of their meeting and after with their staff and other guests posing with them. For these I've just charged my normal hourly fee, and the photos have just gone on their facebook.

They have really liked the photos and have now asked me to do some photos of their firm that will actually go in a couple of upcoming magazines, Forbes and Fortune 500.

I am very excited about having my images printed in these magazines, but I have no clue what I should charge him for this. It will probably only take about an hour, but should I charge more knowing what they are for? He is giving me full credit in the article for the shots. I'm not sure if I should just be happy with that, being paid a minimal hourly rate, or ask for more. The way he talks, this will hopefully turn into more and more opportunities with them and others business' they work with.

What would you do? Thanks..!!

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Oct 22, 2014 09:51 |  #2

Sticky situation, to be sure. Yes, your rate for the new intended usage should be more. But...
You already have a business relationship with the company - you shoot photos, charge your normal hourly fee and provide them photos.
Do you have a contract in place which states the usage of the images you have been giving them?
If so, you can point out the different usage and use that to justify a higher price. If not, I'm guessing they will be expecting to pay the same price since they are wanting the same service.

The best approach would probably be to talk to the law firm, explain your point of view and educate them about usage. If they see the future photos as worth more than the previous, I'm sure you can work out a new price with them.


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Oct 22, 2014 10:15 |  #3

Yes I have a contract, and it really only says is that they own rights to their own photos, but do have to give me credit if used in anything printed. So I guess technically I can't flip it now based on that.

He just told me to let him know what I owe him. I'm not trying to take advantage of it, but I do want to get what is fair. Also though being as new to this as I am, by doing it more as a favor without charging a lot more, can for sure lead to a lot of other opportunities.


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Oct 22, 2014 18:38 |  #4

You need to look into how to price photo licenses. You are selling a license to use your images in an editorial article (assuming it's actually editorial, and not advertising or an advertorial).

When I sell my writing, it's usually sold based on a page count or word count. $x00 per 500 words / 'page' of writing.


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Oct 22, 2014 22:28 |  #5

Sparrow19 wrote in post #17227054 (external link)
Yes I have a contract, and it really only says is that they own rights to their own photos, but do have to give me credit if used in anything printed. So I guess technically I can't flip it now based on that.

He just told me to let him know what I owe him. I'm not trying to take advantage of it, but I do want to get what is fair. Also though being as new to this as I am, by doing it more as a favor without charging a lot more, can for sure lead to a lot of other opportunities.

They own copyright? If that's the case you cant license a photo to them.


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Oct 23, 2014 21:23 |  #6

Sparrow19 wrote in post #17227054 (external link)
Yes I have a contract, and it really only says is that they own rights to their own photos

What rights EXACTLY does it say they have? If you have given away the copyright then you are SOOL and can't license the image as they own it. In fact you can't even use it in your portfolio unless they give permission (or you have a clause that specifically allows for this).


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Oct 23, 2014 22:12 |  #7

Sparrow, whoever wrote your contract should be shot. On sight. With a high caliber round. Multiple times. And then burnt.

Why would you give them ownership of the photos? Who told you that was a good idea?

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Oct 24, 2014 07:32 |  #8

Maybe the lawyer wrote the contract?


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Oct 24, 2014 07:40 |  #9

Sparrow19 wrote in post #17227054 (external link)
Yes I have a contract, and it really only says is that they own rights to their own photos...

What rights do they own?


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Oct 24, 2014 15:48 |  #10

sorry, I missed the part about them owning the rights already.


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