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Oct 23, 2014 21:01 |  #4996

^give me another week and I'll let you know about the noise and the 7dii :) I'm not really a birder though, maybe a birder wanna-be, just limited 'resources' where I am. I can say that with the 70D the noise is (to me) a non issue but I never owned or shot/processed from a 7D.
And having said that I'm a novice in photography but sure do find it relaxing and enjoyable.


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Oct 23, 2014 22:45 |  #4997

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heres a couple more the swallow with my 5DIII and osprey with my 7D. much prefer the lens on the 5DIII but on a crop camera can get awesomely close

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I am no pro, Julie, but that looks like an award-winning shot! Spectacular!


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Oct 23, 2014 22:53 |  #4998

[QUOTE=aladyforty;1722​9770]heres a couple more the swallow with my 5DIII and osprey with my 7D. much prefer the lens on the 5DIII but on a crop camera can get awesomely close


Hi Julie,

One related question about your comment on getting close on the 7D; would you not be able to take the same picture with the 5DIII and crop without loss of IQ?

The 5DIII has a larger sensor so it will have better dynamic range as each pixel will receive more light? Not "questioning" you; I am just moving away from a 70D so at times I feel like I am giving up the crop-factor benefit in moving to the 5DIII but the 70D pictures were quite noisy at higher ISOs so genuinely trying to understand and learn. Thanks!


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Oct 24, 2014 06:02 |  #4999

Very nice Julie.


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Oct 24, 2014 07:15 |  #5000

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aladyforty wrote in post #17229770 (external link)
heres a couple more the swallow with my 5DIII and osprey with my 7D. much prefer the lens on the 5DIII but on a crop camera can get awesomely close


Hi Julie,

One related question about your comment on getting close on the 7D; would you not be able to take the same picture with the 5DIII and crop without loss of IQ?

The 5DIII has a larger sensor so it will have better dynamic range as each pixel will receive more light? Not "questioning" you; I am just moving away from a 70D so at times I feel like I am giving up the crop-factor benefit in moving to the 5DIII but the 70D pictures were quite noisy at higher ISOs so genuinely trying to understand and learn. Thanks!

Each individual pixel will be better, but there just won't be as many pixels on the bird itself, which means you will lose detail. At high ISO settings, the noise factor may mean that your overall IQ would be better with the FF body even without as many pixels on target, but that would depend on the conditions of the specific shot.


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Oct 24, 2014 08:30 |  #5001

From a small amount of experience in this area with the 7D/6D it can be better if the crop is not too large on the FF.

Generally I find I have to crop even on the 7D so using the full frame is a bit of a special case for most birds.


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Oct 24, 2014 08:53 as a reply to  @ post 17226556 |  #5002

The Tammy with my 7D at ISO 4000,towards sunset,cloudy and drizzle,About 50 feet away..
Not bad considering the light or lack of. I over sharpened just a tad sorry!


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Oct 24, 2014 09:09 |  #5003

I love all of these posts. So many great shots. Here is a great egret on the Maumee River with some fall color.

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Oct 24, 2014 09:44 |  #5004

it could be just me needing to get used to the lens on both cameras, for many bird shots Id prefer the crop camera. I will be very interested to see results from 7DII


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Oct 24, 2014 10:13 |  #5005

aladyforty wrote in post #17230885 (external link)
it could be just me needing to get used to the lens on both cameras, for many bird shots Id prefer the crop camera. I will be very interested to see results from 7DII

I do not know if you saw this Julie but this blog is very convincing.
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Oct 24, 2014 10:19 |  #5006

aladyforty wrote in post #17230885 (external link)
it could be just me needing to get used to the lens on both cameras, for many bird shots Id prefer the crop camera. I will be very interested to see results from 7DII

I would persist a bit Julie, on a full frame it is like a 375mm lens on a crop when @600mm, makes it a lot easier to handhold and everything. Of course FF is very forgiving in terms of sharpness and focus.

Depends if you really need the reach.


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Oct 24, 2014 10:25 |  #5007

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I do not know if you saw this Julie but this blog is very convincing.
http://www.romyocon.ne​t/ (external link)

Ooo, good link.


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Oct 24, 2014 10:58 |  #5008

HogansHeroes wrote in post #17230790 (external link)
The Tammy with my 7D at ISO 4000,towards sunset,cloudy and drizzle,About 50 feet away..
Not bad considering the light or lack of. I over sharpened just a tad sorry!


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I love this. Puts my efforts with my 7D and tamzooka to shame


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Oct 24, 2014 11:03 |  #5009

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Ooo, good link.

+1. Thanks for sharing butterfly2937


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Oct 24, 2014 11:08 |  #5010

Geordie Amanda wrote in post #17231001 (external link)
I love this. Puts my efforts with my 7D and tamzooka to shame

Well I am still in the learning stage really,Sometimes with the combo I feel it lets me down then other times it amazes me. So practice or luck I guess.


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