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Oct 27, 2014 10:27 |  #1

I just received this request from a potential bride. How would you respond? Would you do it? Not do it? Charge more? I know my way around photoshop well, but to remove braces from a bride in an entire album would be a huge amount of time! What do you all suggest?


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Oct 27, 2014 10:49 |  #2

I would not agree to it


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Oct 27, 2014 11:11 |  #3

How is it a waste of time ? It's work, isn't it ? Charge accordingly--if you're technically capable of doing the work.

I note that you said this was a potential bride. Although this request isn't a red flag on its own, I'd be careful to make sure that the bride doesn't have some larger encompassing concerns about her appearance before I booked her.



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Oct 27, 2014 11:20 as a reply to  @ Derf's post |  #4

So long as you are confident that you can do a good job of removing them, I would explain that it will take many hours work to do, that you would have to charge for that time, and that it won't be a cheap job. Then give a quote based on how much time you think it will take and your hourly rate for PS work.

It is reasonable for a client to expect normal editing to be done as part of the package, and anything that would count as correcting photographer errors, but anything extra is chargeable.




  
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Oct 27, 2014 11:26 |  #5

Keep in mind that braces might be easily removed from some cases but difficult to remove from others because of angle etc. Making a broad promise before you've even taken the images runs a certain risk.




  
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Oct 27, 2014 13:16 |  #6

Thanks for all of your responses so far!

Derf wrote in post #17235562 (external link)
I would not agree to it

That's what I'm leaning towards.

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #17235598 (external link)
How is it a waste of time ? It's work, isn't it ? Charge accordingly--if you're technically capable of doing the work.

I note that you said this was a potential bride. Although this request isn't a red flag on its own, I'd be careful to make sure that the bride doesn't have some larger encompassing concerns about her appearance before I booked her.

You should read carefully and watch what you say as I did not say anything about it being a waste of time. Only that it would be a lot more time to post-production. I'm adding now that it certainly is not something I want to use my time for, but it seems to be important to someone. That being the bride. I am just merely seeing what you all say in this situation.

sandpiper wrote in post #17235616 (external link)
So long as you are confident that you can do a good job of removing them, I would explain that it will take many hours work to do, that you would have to charge for that time, and that it won't be a cheap job. Then give a quote based on how much time you think it will take and your hourly rate for PS work.

It is reasonable for a client to expect normal editing to be done as part of the package, and anything that would count as correcting photographer errors, but anything extra is chargeable.

gonzogolf wrote in post #17235629 (external link)
Keep in mind that braces might be easily removed from some ****s but difficult to remove from others because of angle etc. Making a broad promise before you've even taken the images runs a certain tisk.

I agree with what you two say here. Some images may work and others not. I don't feel comfortable that she would like the end results as there are two many changes to each image, and even for an increased price. I do photography because I enjoy it, not because it's work or it's my way of living. Why take a job that will only make what I enjoy less? I can leave that up for anyone else to spend their late nights working on.

As a side note... in the brides shoes, I would have planned my wedding differently if that was a significant stress to what I would want on my wedding day. Sad truth, but waiting till they were off would be an option.


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Oct 27, 2014 13:21 |  #7

You can also outsource the photoshop work to someone else, some will do it for next to nothing.


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Oct 27, 2014 13:45 |  #8

" I do photography because I enjoy it, not because it's work or it's my way of living. Why take a job that will only make what I enjoy less? I can leave that up for anyone else to spend their late nights working on. "

This sounds like editing braces is something you don't want to spend your time on even for money. Ie it sounds like you're saying it's a waste of your time.

Look: I'm prescient.



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Oct 27, 2014 14:00 |  #9

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #17235930 (external link)
" I do photography because I enjoy it, not because it's work or it's my way of living. Why take a job that will only make what I enjoy less? I can leave that up for anyone else to spend their late nights working on. "

This sounds like editing braces is something you don't want to spend your time on even for money. Ie it sounds like you're saying it's a waste of your time.

Look: I'm prescient.

I don't post very much, but I've been here long enough to see how you respond to others. Some positive but also others not very tactful and what seems to be picking for a debate. I think most people here are looking for good feedback and not a guy who spends all day thinking he-knows-all behind a keyboard ready to shoot against any post.

That will end here. My question was simple: What would you do in this situation?
What YOU would do was answered just fine and I am taking what you say in consideration. So, thank you. Your responses have been enough at that.


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Oct 27, 2014 14:12 |  #10

I wouldn't do it. Braces are very difficult to remove because they cover so much of the tooth. It could very well be impossible to do and have it look normal - especially on the smaller teeth where they cover most of the tooth. There just isn't enough to clone from and I'm no digital Photoshop artist. If anything I would find someone who is very good at it, outsource it to them and charge double the cost.


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Oct 27, 2014 15:28 |  #11

That's a good thought about outsourcing it. I hadn't thought of that idea.


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Oct 27, 2014 15:56 |  #12

Problem with that is finding something acceptable BEFORE you book it. Or explicitly line that out in the contract about you still need to find an appropriate person to do the work and that by signing they accept that it could affect delivery times, etc. - and also I would put something in the contract that it is difficult work and depending on the angles and amount of the braces captured, etc. that it could affect the ability to remove them.


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Oct 27, 2014 20:51 |  #13

Just say no....

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Oct 27, 2014 21:03 |  #14

Harth wrote in post #17235518 (external link)
I just received this request from a potential bride. How would you respond? Would you do it? Not do it? Charge more? I know my way around photoshop well, but to remove braces from a bride in an entire album would be a huge amount of time! What do you all suggest?

I would make sure the bride was well aware of what that type of work was going to cost her.

Or tell her to keep her lips together when she smiles...


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Oct 27, 2014 22:54 |  #15

Personally I'd turn the job down.


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