-= 7D2 owners unite! Discuss and post photos!

Paulstw wrote in post #17243310
It's like that on the 1D models too. Takes a while to get used to but it's no bother.

Bugger! It doesn't show up on the top LCD either. Annoying, sometimes I use that screen for exposure. Wasn't aware it was a 1D thing, cheers

Snydremark wrote in post #17243126
Here's a quick and dirty one. Again, I'm stunned by the output results without doing anything special to these. Jpeg saved and resized straight out of DPP (I'm learning this as I go, since I normally use LR) and TIFF simply saved without resize. Not sure this one's going to put up any challenge to your actions, though...it's pretty damned clean to me to start with.

Snydremark, If you use dpp, and think you have NR turned off in camera, just remember that there still is NR happening and in fact, it will have higher slider values than the 7d's at the same settings. You have to manually push the sliders down to 0 if you don't want NR at all. If you take a 6400 shot with your old 7D (assuming that is my old 7D?) and the 7D2 in raw with identical settings (if your cat can stay still long enough ), and then take the NR sliders down to 0 for both files, make sure ALO is turned off, and that the other settings are as close to each other as possible, how does it look?

--- side note ----

Also remember that the code in DPP is written so that the JPG output of the raw matches the JPG output of the camera model in question. This means that the code likely has routines like "export_to_jpg(VERSION​_1_0)" for any model prior to the JPG overhaul, and newer models have "export_to_jpg(VERSION​_2_0)". This means that the JPG output from either camera JPG or DPP JPG will be cleaner on the 7D2 than the 7D. The only way to test this theory though is to have a really old pre-new jpg engine DPP and run an old camera raw through it to see if the old DPP produces the same results as the new version of DPP. If so, then my assertion above is true.

This is why I am anxious to see what Adobe results are for both the 7D and 7D2 compared to each other, because they don't have the same behavior. My guess is that there will be virtually no difference between results on the 7D vs 7D2 (other than better noise characteristics allowing for better cleanup).

kobeson wrote in post #17243313
Bugger! It doesn't show up on the top LCD either. Annoying, sometimes I use that screen for exposure. Wasn't aware it was a 1D thing, cheers

Seems to have two exposure level indicators. One for metering (up the right side) and one for selected? (along the bottom) Eh? - no idea.

I think I skimmed over that part of the manual...

Mine is out for delivery by 10:30 today, woo

Paulstw wrote in post #17243337
Seems to have two exposure level indicators. One for metering (up the right side) and one for selected? (along the bottom) Eh? - no idea.

EC?

Anyone with the old and the new 7D to make some comparison shots?

DJHaze596 wrote in post #17241658
All i was saying is the difference between Crop and Full Frame reach is Minimal,

I don't like the term "reach", as it implies a false sense of perspective change. Unless you actually get closer to your subject, you have not increased "reach". What people usually refer to as "reach" is usually some unspecified type of magnification, and that can be achieved with a longer lens or TC with the same camera.

Why waste the detail that your lens can capture on big pixels? A TC can spread the subject over more pixels, for a better quality capture, as long as it doesn't cost you too much in terms of added CA or contrast loss.

You seem to operating in the realm of illusion, as many people are prone to do. APS-C Canons have smaller pixels than the 6D and capture more detail of the subject from the same distance with the same lens. I would only use my 6D over my 7D when the ISO is going to be over about 2000-2500. At low ISOs, like 200 to 800, the 7D capture is superior. With the 7D2, I expect to find NO BENEFIT from the 6D when I can not use the entire frame of the 6D (or most of it).

kobeson wrote in post #17243293
Wtf? Manual mode exposure level indicator on the rhs of viewfinder, vertical. Other modes use the horizontal indicator, hope I can change this!

I noticed that too last night!

kobeson wrote in post #17243313
Bugger! It doesn't show up on the top LCD either. Annoying, sometimes I use that screen for exposure. Wasn't aware it was a 1D thing, cheers

Didn't notice this though. WTF, indeed! I use the top LCD to check my exposure when shooting on tripod quite a bit. :/

That is actually kind of annoying, can you bring up the meter on the rear LCD? Otherwise...how would you set exposure if you use the viewfinder cover?

Battery question. Is the 7D2 battery the same as the 5d3, same size and voltage? If so then a spare battery can be used as backup for any of these two cameras.

pwven wrote in post #17243463
Battery question. Is the 7D2 battery the same as the 5d3, same size and voltage? If so then a spare battery can be used as backup for any of these two cameras.

Battery Pack LP-E6
the same for all these

https://www.usa.canon.​com …elName=Battery+​Pack+LP-E6

^. It looks like I could use my 60D battery even. I'm pretty sure Mark III as well. The new battery is like 65mAH more. 1865. But someone said you can get good third party one that is like 2500 or something? LP-E6 Sterlingtek.


http://www.amazon.com …attery-2600/dp/B005DEHVC8

Thanks for the info. Glad the batteries are interchangeable.
With a bit of luck I will be getting my 7D2 this afternoon.

Yes you can use your batteries from the 7D, 60D, 5DmkIII, etc

I've only been able to test it in lower light, indoors so far.

But the auto 65 pt AF was tracking better than other modes in some cases, which is kinda crazy. It was locking into my GFs dogs eye, which is dark, on a brown dog, up against a glass window. I moved the viewfinder low, so only the top points could grab focus on the head/eye yet, and it stuck.

But I mainly shoot wildlife, so we will see how it handles this weekend.