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Nov 03, 2014 09:40 |  #826

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Wowza. Here is where I think the logic fails a bit - if you are putting significantly fewer pixels in a area, this level of crop is simply going to have a lot less data to work with if it came off of a 5D3 - sometimes you need pixels for prints, or certain DPI numbers for publishers, and an APS-C keeps that density higher for longer when cropping in.

Without cropping my FF kicked my crop when I used to play around with my MP-E 65 but I always assumed I had an edge to pushed crops with my crop just because of the pixel density. I have no data to back that.


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Nov 03, 2014 09:50 |  #827

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Without cropping my FF kicked my crop when I used to play around with my MP-E 65 but I always assumed I had an edge to pushed crops with my crop just because of the pixel density. I have no data to back that.

I use my MPE on my 5DII as well but that's because I can fill the frame in either camera just by changing the magnification amount. Therefore any advantage the crop sensor would have would be lost as I can put just as many 5D pixels on the target as the 7D. THen you have other factors as the FF sensor needing less enlargement for display and such. But if your are the max 5x magnification and the image is smaller than the 23mm x 15mm than the crop camera is going to put a lot more pixels on the target. It like if you turned the 5D into a 9mp camera.


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Nov 03, 2014 10:01 |  #828

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I use my MPE on my 5DII as well but that's because I can fill the frame in either camera just by changing the magnification amount. Therefore any advantage the crop sensor would have would be lost as I can put just as many 5D pixels on the target as the 7D. THen you have other factors as the FF sensor needing less enlargement for display and such. But if your are the max 5x magnification and the image is smaller than the 23mm x 15mm than the crop camera is going to put a lot more pixels on the target. It like if you turned the 5D into a 9mp camera.

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Nov 03, 2014 10:13 |  #829

i'm debating really hard if I want to take up amazon on the 12 month 0% financing and order this sucker now...


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Nov 03, 2014 10:17 |  #830

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i'm debating really hard if I want to take up amazon on the 12 month 0% financing and order this sucker now...

Free money as long as you pay it off in 11 months. :)

The alternative is to wait just a bit longer and see what kind of used or new specials there might be with lenses and printers. You are only about 1 month away and could potentially still use the Amazon financing deal but after rebates and selling the printer, you could shave off $100-200.


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Nov 03, 2014 10:18 |  #831

I am waiting for Dell to get it in stock, no idea when. I have a $100 gift card, get 10% back in a gift card for later use, will use Mr Rebates and get 4% cash back and can use my Dell financing so I can get it now and pay it off within a year. I have to impatiently wait for them to get it.


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Nov 03, 2014 10:24 |  #832

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Free money as long as you pay it off in 11 months. :)

The alternative is to wait just a bit longer and see what kind of used or new specials there might be with lenses and printers. You are only about 1 month away and could potentially still use the Amazon financing deal but after rebates and selling the printer, you could shave off $100-200.

i've also got a $25 gift card waiting around i've been waiting to use and if i use the amazon.com store card i get another $40 off.

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Nov 03, 2014 10:39 |  #833

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i'm debating really hard if I want to take up amazon on the 12 month 0% financing and order this sucker now...

Playing around with an interest earned calculator, with todays rates most backs will get you about $0.18 assuming that you put the whole $1800 into an interest earning account. If you transfer it to a higher paying account you can boost that to about $14.


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Nov 03, 2014 11:04 |  #834

Using the Amazon.com CC I will get 3% back (~$65.00) and I have already scheduled the payment to the card (my statement usualy comes with a $0 or near $0 balance as we "pay as we go" on all our cards).


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Nov 03, 2014 11:11 |  #835

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Great shot! - Have you considered stopping down a little to control the CA and bring the whole bird into focus (looking at the lower right)?

I keep trying to get good captures of the hawks in my neighborhood, I got a couple of sweet ones one day with the 70D, but just a quick snap with the 7D2.

He'd have to stay waay down and still not get everything in focus because the head and body is nowhere near on the same plane.


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Nov 03, 2014 11:21 |  #836

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...The big debate seems to be comparing to 7D and 70D and the 5DIII but for me, coming from the 50D, this is a substantial upgrade in Af and high ISO...

Me, too. The only 1.6 body I had was the 50D. I got rid of that and went directly to the 1D3, so I never experience the original 7D or any other 1.6 body. So, now that this nice focusing, mini 1D body is available, I had to jump on it. There will be limited times that the 1.4 won't be on the 500. With those birdies, you need as much reach as possible to get print worthy images.

Personally, I can care less about the debate between the FF and 1.6 because even with the 1.6 there will be some cropping going on. I will just grab which ever body I decide to use that day. Lately, I've been using the 5D3 and it produces some wonderfully printable images.


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Nov 03, 2014 11:26 |  #837

Road side Hawk, at ISO 640, EF500/4IS MKI.


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Nov 03, 2014 11:31 |  #838

Nice.


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Nov 03, 2014 11:33 as a reply to  @ ruhikant's post |  #839

thanks ruhikant, very nice. that one did it for me, ordering from B&h right now.




  
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Nov 03, 2014 11:54 |  #840

Sorry if I missed it but has anyone compared the AF and ISO performance to the 1D MKIV. I have a 7D MKIII body sitting at the camera store with my name on it but haven't seen anything that makes want to rush out and pick it up yet. My original thought was 7D mkii and a 1dx combo. Now I'm rethinking that line up a little bit.




  
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