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Nov 05, 2014 19:03 |  #1156

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My first test shot. Cold and dreary out so I had to try something indoors with poor lighting. Not much but it proves the camera works. ;)

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Nov 05, 2014 19:22 |  #1157

Snydremark wrote in post #17254312 (external link)
Class 10 would be the designation for an SD card to use in the camera; but if you're doing a bunch of burst shooting, you do not want that. You want a UDMA 7 CF card; the MkII only supports UHS-1 SD cards, which top out at something like 25 mb/s write speed. It takes a LOOONG time to write a burst of RAW to the SD card.

My SanDisk extreme pros SDHC cards can do 90mb/sec write - SD has come a long way recently :-)


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Nov 05, 2014 19:56 |  #1158

I think o made a mistake by opening this thread and subsequently looking at all of these posts and images. I suffer from extreme GAS, going through the majority of the Mirrorless options after shooting with a 5DM3. I kept trying to find the perfect substitute for a DSLR in a smaller body, and while there are some benefits to a Mirrorless system (lighter weight, EVF, lots of features), the drawbacks are still too strong for me to switch to them fully (sucky battery, subpar AF, lens lineup is still lacking for some, ergonomics). I switched back to DSLR with the D810 and it's great. I have no real complaints about it (miss the wifi and the til/touch screen). While I'm getting some great images I'm satisfied with, I'm just not feeling the connection that I did when I was shooting with Canon.

I can't pinpoint exactly what it is, maybe it's the sexiness of the red ring, but I keep feeling a pull to get a Canon system. I love shooting with primes and really enjoyed borrowing a buddies 135L and 200. The community of Canon shooters, in particular the POTn community is another reason why I feel the pull to come back to Canon. And while the 7DM2 might not be the best fit for me because I'm neither a sports nor wildlife shooter, I crave good, accurate AF. The D810 has terrific AF but I'm still finding myself missing on a lot of shots of my toddler. And while the D810 has the better sensor on paper, I'm not sure if I'm taking full advantage of the D810 strengths either (not a huge landscape shooter and don't crop at all). Most of my shooting is family pictures and travel, of which the built in GPS would be handy for.

I'll have to sleep on it and do additional research. Good thing for me is I'm not that invested in Nikon stuff yet (only have 4 lenses of which I bought all used), so the financial hit won't be too extreme if I choose to switch.


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Nov 05, 2014 19:58 |  #1159

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Dibs on your D810! :D


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Nov 05, 2014 20:00 |  #1160

patrol50 wrote in post #17254515 (external link)
hi well it certainly looks like canon has kicked a winner with the 7d mk 2 -so far from the comments and photos - and thanks to all for posting photos

it seems that handles noise pretty well and is well controlled probably up to 3200 - 6400 and even above and seems to be easier to remove - but probably similar in the range 100 to 800 to the 7d c

detail is quite good but its probably no better than the 7 d c or the 70 d but because the noise is better controlled the higher iso shots do look much better :rolleyes:

the af is all it was cracked up to be and nails focus every time :D

and its is one of the best weather sealed cameras according to roger at lens rentals and his word is gold imho


so I will pick mine up tomorrow here in aus after sitting tight for a week :rolleyes: to see what came out of the mix :D


thanks again to all those who posted photos - much appreciated


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There is at most a 2/3 stop improvement over the 7D with the 7D2, and some have taken the raw files through raw analyzers and seen even less a change. So don't expect a 2 stop (or more) improvement, UNLESS you shoot JPG only.


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Nov 05, 2014 20:00 |  #1161

Keyan wrote in post #17254673 (external link)
My SanDisk extreme pros SDHC cards can do 90mb/sec write - SD has come a long way recently :-)

I'd be curious to hear what your buffer fill and clear times are with it on the MkII then.

I'll have to check the actual specs on the SD card I have at home, too, tonight.


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Nov 05, 2014 20:40 |  #1162

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17254770 (external link)
There is at most a 2/3 stop improvement over the 7D with the 7D2, and some have taken the raw files through raw analyzers and seen even less a change. So don't expect a 2 stop (or more) improvement, UNLESS you shoot JPG only.

That seem to be the case with most of the Canon dSLR lately. eg: 5D3>5D2, pretty much the same in term of sensor improvement.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 20:47 |  #1163

airbutchie wrote in post #17254317 (external link)
ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOTE...

I can't add the 7D2 body to my CPS account!!! Hehehehe... The don't have it listed in their 'add' menu... WHAT GIVES, CANON!!! Hehehehe... Hope they change that soon...

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I used the 7D figuring it wouldn't take the SN but it did. I guess if the 7D MkII shows up I'll delete the 7D and add it as a 7D2. Same with the Canon product registration site.


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Nov 05, 2014 20:51 |  #1164

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17254770 (external link)
There is at most a 2/3 stop improvement over the 7D with the 7D2, and some have taken the raw files through raw analyzers and seen even less a change. So don't expect a 2 stop (or more) improvement, UNLESS you shoot JPG only.

cheers TS and no I am not expecting a 2 stop improvement in noise mate ( unless its a 6d i end up buying ) but I think its at least a half a stop to the good of the old 7 d and in some cases it seems it looks a bit better than that because the noise appears more even and better controlled in some of the best 7 d mk 2 images i think - you agree ?

i do think in reality the detail of the 7 d mk 2 is no better than the 7dc but hey the 7 dc detail was not too bad anyway - i was never too unhappy with the detail from it when i hit focus ok and the iso was low and again it does maybe look a bit better because of the more even and better controlled noise in the mk 2

so its not what i was hoping for in all honesty as i was keen to see a full stop better re noise and iso but it is what it is and it will be better than my 7 d i reckon by enough of a margin to jump in there and that af seems to be spot on as jake predicted - and if roger from LR also gives it a wrap its gotta be good imho :D

so i guess its got enough going for it now for me to cough up my hard earned and take it home and play around with it

cheers mate - and love your work :lol:

ps by the way don't be too surprised if you get the odd raw shot headed you way with a noise clean up query attached :D


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Nov 05, 2014 21:03 |  #1165

Not a problem, I'd like to have my actions all ready to go once I pick up a 7D2 in a few months, so the only way to do that is to take in a bunch of raw files and work on them.


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Nov 05, 2014 21:16 |  #1166

What CF cards are people using with this camera? I read a review on Amazon by someone using the Komputerbay 128gb 1066x who said he was getting 45 raw shots before the buffer started slowing things down.

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Nov 05, 2014 21:18 |  #1167

I'm using a Transcend 1000x (UDMA7) I can get between 35 and 45 before the buffer fills and things slow down


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Nov 05, 2014 21:44 |  #1168

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I'm using a Transcend 1000x (UDMA7) I can get between 35 and 45 before the buffer fills and things slow down

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Nov 05, 2014 21:46 |  #1169

Someone here requested this I think.

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Nov 05, 2014 21:54 |  #1170

Snydremark wrote in post #17254940 (external link)
I'm using a Transcend 1000x (UDMA7) I can get between 35 and 45 before the buffer fills and things slow down

And you said 4-5sec for buffer to clear. Depend on which card you are using, 16GB one has 70MB/s write speed, while 32/64/128GB has 120MB/s write speed. Let's say the 7D2 RAW file is about 20-25MB each, at 10fps, that's about 200-250MB/s, and we know 7D2 has 31 RAW buffer. Even if the 7D2 can take full advantage of 120MB/s, that's only about 1/2 the frame rate, eg: clearing buffer at 5fps. So, after the buffer got full, it would take about 6sec to clear. Your estimate about 5sec is probably right.




  
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