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Jun 09, 2014 07:28 |  #1

Anyone using this flash? Thoughts on it's performance?


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Jun 09, 2014 07:38 |  #2

V-860 Ving TTL




  
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Jun 09, 2014 12:39 |  #3

Thanks :)


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Jun 09, 2014 12:59 |  #4

scorpio_e wrote in post #16960681 (external link)
Anyone using this flash? Thoughts on it's performance?

  • Yes, got it.
  • Yes, use it.
  • Performance, light-wise, is on a par with others of similar specification. No better, no worse than would be expected.
  • Build quality seems better than most other after-market flashes of similar specification - a definite step up from the budget priced offerings with a minimal increase in unit cost. I'd prefer a slighty more matte finish but that's personal preference.
  • Battery performance completely eradicates the need for external battery packs for this size of unit, a considerable boon both in use and when managing charging requirements. No need to juggle multiple chargers/power leads/AA cells any more; and certainly no need to search for multiple wall outlets to feed them. Hence beneficial when travelling with weight restrictions.
  • Handling a single power cell is very much more convenient than juggling four AA cells and the method of removing battery pressure from the compartment door is well worth others copying. I can't imagine any scenario where the door lugs would shear, as has been frequently reported (or the same few reports recycled!!) for the lower priced YN competitor.
  • I don't have a v850 for direct comparison but find the panel light perfectly adequate and certainly no bar to control in low ambient light conditions. Far more inconvience is caused, for me, by ↓↓↓↓
  • The only thing I find totally inexplicable is the omission of the sound facility - it'd be very helpful when changing settings remotely to have that aural confirmation. The common position for the beeper is full of battery compartment and I haven't dismembered a v850 to see where the beeper is in this type, but can't envisage any physical reason why the facility was excluded. Something they'll implement in the Mk 2 perhaps?
  • The non-locking head tilt/swivel is only just sufficiently strong to prevent the body flopping down when fitted horizontally into the Godox 'S'-type bracket. The additional weight of, say, a YN622C remote trigger instead of the Godox FT-16S, is sufficient to make the body tilt down and bang against the lightstand. No real reason for Godox to accomodate other maker's items in their design specification, but real-world users may find reason to use an alternative trigger system.
  • Be interesting to discover the future function of those extra contacts in the battery compartment.

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Jun 09, 2014 15:38 |  #5

Whortleberry wrote in post #16961249 (external link)
]Be interesting to discover the future function of those extra contacts in the battery compartment.

they are not "contact", just cut-out parts on the plastic exposing pins from the internal circuits, to use the space more efficiently.

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https://www.flickr.com​/photos/malow/13422488​154/ (external link)

i sent a message to flashhavoc.com to update his reviews, but got no answer.

EDIT: not the review says it "may not be" connectors ;)


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Jun 09, 2014 16:36 |  #6

Thanks for the EXCELLENT feedback Phil.


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Jun 09, 2014 18:51 |  #7

malow wrote in post #16961572 (external link)
they are not "contact", just cut-out parts on the plastic exposing pins from the internal circuits, to use the space more efficiently.

https://www.flickr.com​/photos/malow/13422191​303/ (external link)
https://www.flickr.com​/photos/malow/13422488​154/ (external link)

i sent a message to flashhavoc.com to update his reviews, but got no answer.

EDIT: not the review says it "may not be" connectors ;)

I think you misunderstood my meaning. I wasn't referring to the side of the battery compartment between the battery contact pin set and the battery plastic latch. This is obviously a simple cut-out.

On the v86 (your pix are of the v850, as you captioned), there is a set of 4 pins at the base of the compartment as you look down into it. In the same plane as the battery contacts and the coil spring and adjacent to that spring. Without dissembly, which I don't have time for at present, these look very like the pins for a 4-pin plug. Now they may conceivably be simple solder-through-the-board of a component on the reverse, but if so the pins haven't been clipped short at all on my version. It'll need a little bit of time expending to strip down and check but they don't appear to be simple solder points at this juncture. The v860 does also have the cut-out in the side of the battery compartment as mentioned, the ones I was referring to are in addition to this cut-out. It's actually a moot point what they are at this juncture, mere idle curiosity on my part.

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Thanks for the EXCELLENT feedback Phil.

You're very welcome, hope it helped a bit.


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Jun 10, 2014 08:47 |  #8

I bought one last week and so far so good, ettl works well and the battery is fantastic.

I have used it with my yn-622 too but not noticed and problems with the head.

The beepless feature is a plus for me because I wouldn't want it beeping at a wedding.


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Jun 10, 2014 11:33 |  #9

I know the battery life is suppose to be great. Do you think you could shoot two weddings without recharging it or would you say one wedding max and recharge?

I have the Cheetah CL 180 and the battery life is crazy !!!!!


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Jun 10, 2014 11:34 |  #10

You helped a LOT Phil. Thanks for taking time out and writing your comments :) I Truly appreciate it !!!


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Jun 10, 2014 12:55 |  #11

scorpio_e wrote in post #16963238 (external link)
I know the battery life is suppose to be great. Do you think you could shoot two weddings without recharging it or would you say one wedding max and recharge?

I have the Cheetah CL 180 and the battery life is crazy !!!!!

I sent my assistant for a simple wedding using V-860 last week and using 1 battery for the end of the church ceremony
and replace to secondary battery for the main event, I won't say 1 battery is enough for the work

I found weakness of V-860 recently, if you put it on standby and it suddenly off, display off, maybe sleep mode,
and you activate shutter again and V-860 turn on, something silly happened

first shot looks like flash did not fire, under exposed other shots miss, over exposure

i have to turn off V-860 and turn it on again and back to normal

I haven't check more detail but this is a bit annoying for the work,
I think, I am gonna disabled sleep mode to prevent this


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Jun 10, 2014 13:34 |  #12

^ NO stupid canon Speedlite" LOVE IT !!!!!!


It say you get 650 full power pops. At 1/2 power that is 1300 images? I would think that would cover a wedding?


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Jun 10, 2014 17:42 |  #13

I wouldn't count on 1300 1/2 power pops. Maybe somewhere in the range of 1100 to be conservative. And I would never rely on a single battery for a paid gig, especially a wedding.

Could you cover a wedding on a single battery? Maybe. Probably. Would I recommend having only one battery to shoot a wedding? Never. Sh!t happens. And you wanna be prepared for when it does.

I have two v850s and one backup battery.


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Nov 09, 2014 17:14 |  #14

I'm very close to getting one of these - for the 50% discount on a canon unit it's hard to pass by.


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Nov 10, 2014 21:46 |  #15

So far it's been working good for me. The only thing to keep in mind is if you're bouncing, I find I need to set FEC +1.


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