1DX has some serious competition

Scoobert wrote in post #17262162
A guy shoots weddings with a 1DX?

Hmm, I do too. Surprised you ask, really? IMO it's the ultimate wedding machine. It replaced my 1Dsmk2.

"Ya I sold my Bugatti so I can buy three other exotic cars for the same price."

Is that the same logic?

I too am thinking about getting the 7DMKII.

Well I'm sure the 7DII is a good camera for sports / action shooting, it's not 1DX picture image quality.

It's less than 1/3 the price - I would hope it doesn't have the same IQ! If it did, Canon would have just shot themselves in the foot.

I am in the Midwest and bracing for what looks to be a VERY cold end to the week. Looks like today will be the last nice day in quite a while.

I suspect once the excitement dust settles, the differences between the two bodies will be quite apparent.

I took my 7D II + 16-35 f/2.8 II as well as my good old 7D + 70-200 f/2.8 IS II to an MMA event on Friday night and was blown away at the difference in IQ. The blacks were blacker, and there is just something about the images that is so crisp and brilliant. I shot at 1/1000 at f/2.8 and ISO 1600 all night long. It handles ISO 1600 like a champ. As a matter of fact, I stopped down and shot at 6400 just as a test and am confident the images are usable at ISO 6400 as well. I am thoroughly impressed so far after rattling off 32GB worth of images in one night. The AF is ridiculous. I quickly discovered though, that I still have a lot to learn with this camera. It is beautifully simple, yet when you dig deeper (into the menu options), you realize that there is actually a TON of customization and so much fine tuning that can be done. With that said, I still managed to nail a ton of amazing shots that the photographer next to me constantly missed (D7000 :P - we compared throughout the night). Conclusion: it's untouchable as far as I'm concerned. Canon hit another home run and can without a doubt call the 7D II "King of the Crop", once again.

Now I just need adobe to hurry up with the codec so that I can start editing. Booooo!

JM Photos wrote in post #17262222
Can someone please tell me why you'd trade a 1dx for a 7d2? Why would you trade down to crop?

FOV. Its a huge advantage to the 7D2. Both cameras have same AF systems. Only reason to have a 1Dx in my opinion is if you need to shoot sports indoors above 4000 ISO

This is where the decision to get the 7D2 is very very smart

7D2 and a 300 F/2.8 is 480mm at F/2.8

costs- $9200.00

1Dx and a 400mm F/2.8

costs $17298.00

and 80mm less FOV

Thats a huge reason why the 7D2 is going to dominate the sports and wildlife markets. Being able to shoot at 6400 is an added bonus

I wont lie. from what im seeing 4000 ISO is max i would go for wedding work. But the perspn i spoke with yesterday says his 6400 ISO wedding images are very acceptable.

This Camera looks like a winner

umphotography wrote in post #17262982
FOV. Its a huge advantage to the 7D2. Both cameras have same AF systems. Only reason to have a 1Dx in my opinion is if you need to shoot sports indoors above 4000 ISO

This is where the decision to get the 7D2 is very very smart

7D2 and a 300 F/2.8 is 480mm at F/2.8

costs- $9200.00

1Dx and a 400mm F/2.8

costs $17298.00

and 80mm less FOV

Thats a huge reason why the 7D2 is going to dominate the sports and wildlife markets. Being able to shoot at 6400 is an added bonus

I wont lie. from what im seeing 4000 ISO is max i would go for wedding work. But the perspn i spoke with yesterday says his 6400 ISO wedding images are very acceptable.

This Camera looks like a winner

More importantly, no other camera has an AF system that covers as much of the frame as the 7D II. Not even the 1DX.

Here's what the 1DX looks like...

IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING! MIME changed to 'text/html' | Content warning: script

Scoobert wrote in post #17262162
A guy shoots weddings with a 1DX?

I know clients who have no knowledge of camera, shopping for photographer to cover the event, about what camera he/she shoot with, just to pick the photographer with most expensive tool, rather than checking the background, gallery, others opinion. So yes Saying I have the most expensive camera tool, can sell (Specially if part of nasty ad) even if that is the back up camera...

samsen wrote in post #17263004
I know clients who have no knowledge of camera, shopping for photographer to cover the event, about what camera he/she shoot with, just to pick the photographer with most expensive tool, rather than checking the background, gallery, others opinion. So yes Saying I have the most expensive camera tool, can sell (Specially if part of nasty ad) even if that is the back up camera...

I strongly disagree here. Most people hiring a wedding photographer are not going to hire a photographer because they have a better camera than another photographer; the client will choose based on whether or not they already know the photographer (this is a big one) and whether or not they like the photographer's previous work / style.

If I am shopping for cupcakes, I want the ones that taste the best; not the ones that come from the most expensive oven. And I think it's fairly safe to say that the majority of wedding clients think alike when it comes to photographers.

^^ this.

Most people don't know a 1Dx from a 7DII or a 20D - for the most part. They go with who they know, not what they have, 95% of the time.

Especially if you grip it. That makes a rebel even look like a big pro camera.

We're all a little too spoiled with new technology.

How did the pros shoot anything before digital SLRs?

Paulstw wrote in post #17262828
I suspect once the excitement dust settles, the differences between the two bodies will be quite apparent.

Well looking on dpreview at 6400 ISO in jpeg I wouldn't trade down! I use 6400 to 10000 on a regular basis shooting dance routines.

Owned both (returned the 7D2 and kept the 1Dx). The 7DII is good, but I seriously doubt any working sports pro is going to leave the 1Dx for the 7DII.