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Nov 10, 2014 16:54 |  #46

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Lol. Money isn't an issue. If I wanted a 1DX, I would've bought one. I primarily shoot ski and snowboard and enjoy the crop factor. The 7D was a wonderful camera (minus the noise, of course). I can now say with confidence, purchasing the 7D II was a great choice. I'm more than happy with the images at ISO 6400. Are they as good as they 1DX? Of course not. But is the 1DX worth $4000 more? Not a chance. Not in my opinion...

It makes me wonder what the next 1D series is going to be like, with the great reviews this camera is getting.


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Nov 10, 2014 17:23 |  #47

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I always look at these types of threads as ways for people who buy the cheaper camera to make shaky comments in an attempt to justify their purchase of a less capable camera.

Buy what you can afford, take awesome photos with it. But don't make silly comparisons in the process.

Or perhaps, instead, buy what gets the job done, not what you can afford. There is a big difference in many cases. There are 2 valid trains of thought here, and no need to judge why others ask the questions they do. ;)


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Nov 10, 2014 17:30 |  #48

Thought about getting the 1D X.

But really wanted to save up for the 400mm 2.8 IS II.

So I bought the 7dm2.

Finally picked it up from USPS today. I'll see how it does on Saturday. :cool:


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Nov 10, 2014 17:38 |  #49

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Or perhaps, instead, buy what gets the job done, not what you can afford. There is a big difference in many cases. There are 2 valid trains of thought here, and no need to judge why others ask the questions they do. ;)

There is a difference between the premise of this thread and saying something is simply good enough to get the job done.


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Nov 10, 2014 17:59 |  #50

The fact that we have a sub $2K body that many that know better are saying can be considered as a 1Dx alternative, is pretty amazing. We don;t need to except it as an alternative if we are married to our 1D, but this is not the question, again it just goes back to the fact that we can even chose to put them against each other,.. amazing. This is not something we'd have given much consideration with 7D vs. 1D4, 50D vs 1Ds3, or 10D vs. 1D, 20D vs. 1D2 etc etc etc..

IMHO I concur with the thread title. It is not just hot air. I've read from several people that have shot the 1Dx that this little APS-c is a serious bantam weight contender. Do I think it will grab the Heavyweight title? Not really, but you can bet that the AF in the 7D2 is going to be at the heart of the 1DxII

I'd suggest that people not get defensive about their 1Dx. It too will be obsolete some day.


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Nov 10, 2014 18:00 |  #51

I don't think that this can be resolved because it's all up to opinion. Many people like to shoot crop and so many other like FF. For those who prefer crop, or have all crop lenses (like myself) the 7D2 is a much better choice. I don't need what the 1dx has to offer nor can I afford it. For me to upgrade to FF I would need to get all new glass an thats expensive. Bottom line (After my little rant) they are both very different cameras and while they can be compared side-to-side IQ and spec wise, each one will have their own "fan-base" so to speak

EDIT - It's like comparing apple to oranges. Some prefer apples and other prefer oranges, and then there's some people who like both


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Nov 10, 2014 18:00 |  #52

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Thanks Mike. I am considering 7D2 as back up for 5D3 instead of the 6D. More reading.....

I'm in the same boat....


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Nov 10, 2014 18:20 |  #53

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For me the benefit of larger AF coverage is a big factor that I cherish from my old 1D bodies.

Wow. Not sure how I overlooked that. Thanks for clearing that up. Nonetheless, my point still stands. The 7D II's AF system covers more of the frame than any camera. And to say, "well of course it does, it's a crop camera" is a ridiculous statement. Look every other crop camera that exists. All that aside, the 1DX is due for a replacement soon and I'm certain the new body will boast an AF system that covers just as much of the frame as the 7D II and then some. :P


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Nov 10, 2014 18:46 |  #54

I was/am hoping the 7DII kicks some serious butt. Not that I am interested in buying one, I am quite happy with my 1D's thank you.

But if Canon knocked it out of the park with the 7DII, that would get me very excited about what Canon has in store for the next 1D body.


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Nov 10, 2014 18:53 |  #55

The statement I heard was that, basically, if you NEED to shoot above 6400 on a regular basis, are doing work where you're *hard* on your gear (constantly banging it around, etc), really need the extra shred of DoF from a FF sensor, are working in truly hostile environments for long periods of time or you NEED the extra couple of FPS that the 1Dx gives you, then the 1Dx is what you should buy.

Otherwise, the 7DII should cover the needs. Wants, on the other hand...<shrug> :p


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Nov 10, 2014 19:32 |  #56

Gaarryy wrote in post #17263668 (external link)
It makes me wonder what the next 1D series is going to be like, with the great reviews this camera is getting.

when I saw that the Rebels inherited the 40D/50D/60D AF system... I though - oh! what is the 60D successor going to get?!

it got the 7D AF system

So yes, if the the 7D2 got the 1DX AF system... makes ya wonder what the 1DX successor will get...

the 7D2 seems to have a magnificent crop sensor so if they transfer that technology to the new 5D(4) and 1DX(whatever the successor will be called) - they aught to have a winner! [If its near the D810 sensor, anyways]


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Nov 10, 2014 19:57 |  #57

Crazy how many people give advice comparing the cameras without using them both. Or even one of them.


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Nov 10, 2014 20:06 |  #58

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How did the pros shoot anything before digital SLRs? :cool:

It was more difficult. My wedding photographer in 1997 used a MF TLR camera and she did a nice job. At about that same price point today I could probably get a person with the same skills, much better equipment and overall more and better pictures.

Ever look at older (like, 1970s and 1980s) sports photos in nationwide, glossy magazines? They are not especially impressive. I see local enthusiasts making better images (from a focus, noise, sharpness) perspective today while shooting local high school games. It's amazing what technology has wrought.

On topic for this thread, I'm sure the 7D2 is a nice camera but I'm guessing it isn't the same as the 1DX, and unlike the OP's comments I would list its FOV at any focal length to be a liability, not an advantage.


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Nov 10, 2014 21:53 as a reply to  @ JeffreyG's post |  #59

I have tested and shot with a 1DX and I wound up with 3 5D3s. Love the 5D3 for my wedding work but also loved the AF of the 1Dx- for me the 5D3 and 1Dx files are identical but the AF on a 1Dx- wow -- the 7D2 has the 1DX AF- for me- when canon killed off the 1.3 sensor they really hurt the options for working pros- myself and many I talk with miss the advantage the 1.3 fov gave with a 1D series AF system. 7D2 just fixed that . I can't wait to get my hands on this thing


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Nov 11, 2014 00:15 |  #60

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when I saw that the Rebels inherited the 40D/50D/60D AF system... I though - oh! what is the 60D successor going to get?!

it got the 7D AF system

So yes, if the the 7D2 got the 1DX AF system... makes ya wonder what the 1DX successor will get...

the 7D2 seems to have a magnificent crop sensor so if they transfer that technology to the new 5D(4) and 1DX(whatever the successor will be called) - they aught to have a winner! [If its near the D810 sensor, anyways]

The 70D is missing spot and single point expansion.


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