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Nov 15, 2014 12:05 |  #1
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Nov 15, 2014 12:39 |  #2

Yeah this argument was settled almost century ago yet there are those that are still fighting a war that has been over since the birth of straight photography. The problem is there are so many photographs that have such little real content today because there are millions of photographers creating images that don't go beyond the obvious. As a viewer, you look, you see, no reason to stay and look. Immediate gratification. The work of many of the great photographers demands more than a quick glance. A great quote by Ralph Gibson on the subject.

"A good photograph, like a good painting, speaks with a loud voice and demands time and attention if it is to be fully perceived. An art lover is perfectly willing to hang a painting on a wall for years on end, but ask him to study a single photograph for ten unbroken minutes and he’ll think it’s a waste of time. Staying power is difficult to build into a photograph. Mostly, it takes content. A good photograph can penetrate the subconscious – but only if it is allowed to speak for however much time it needs to get there." - Ralph Gibson




  
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Nov 15, 2014 12:42 |  #3

This dude probably just murdered his career with that article.


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Nov 15, 2014 12:49 |  #4

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17273554 (external link)
This dude probably just murdered his career with that article.

There are a lot of people that think like that and have no idea of history. The really sad part is there are some photographers that post here that believe that. I know because I have been n some of those threads.




  
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Nov 15, 2014 12:52 |  #5

I've had the luck nd opportunity to do 4 gallery shows thus far. They've been successful and well attended, with a nice deal of sales or framed prints. My little shows are silly compared to some of the genius work that's out there. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. Some shows of paintings are equally flat and lifeless. Like anything elses it depends on the work, no?


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Nov 15, 2014 12:58 |  #6

airfrogusmc wrote in post #17273567 (external link)
There are a lot of people that think like that and have no idea of history. The really sad part is there are some photographers that post here that believe that. I know because I have been n some of those threads.

I know, and I find it truly sad that people can be so close minded, even more sad when they're so outspoken about it...


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Nov 15, 2014 13:04 |  #7

Yeah I know. Really sad...

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Nov 15, 2014 20:54 |  #8

We attended a Norman Rockwell show on Cape Cod a couple years ago. He always worked from photographs and combined portions of different images to create his paintings.

Quite an interesting exhibition ... and even more interesting to see how he "extracted" individual parts of each image to create the final paintings.




  
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Nov 15, 2014 21:36 as a reply to  @ monkey44's post |  #9

Funnily enough I went to the national portrait museum in London last year to look at the paintings and they all bored me ****less. I couldn't look at any of them for more than a couple of mins. Guess I like photos and this guy likes paintings. Except I didn't then go and write an article about how easy it is to slop some paint around and how paintings should be limited to ipads....



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Nov 15, 2014 21:41 |  #10

RMH wrote in post #17274314 (external link)
Funnily enough I went to the national portrait museum in London last year to look at the paintings and they all bored me ****less. I couldn't look at any of them for more than a couple of mins. Guess I like photos and this guy likes paintings. Except I didn't then go and write an article about how easy it is to slop some paint around and how paintings should be limited to ipads....

I actually feel the same way most of the time. There are definitely paintings that catch my attention and awe, but I feel as though it happens far more often with photographs, which is why I love this forum. So many excellent photographers on this forum post their work all the time, it's like having free art galleries right here in my living room :cool:


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Nov 15, 2014 21:44 |  #11

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17273554 (external link)
This dude probably just murdered his career with that article.

One can only hope.


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Nov 15, 2014 22:38 |  #12

Jonathan Jones... just a sad, sad little man.


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Nov 15, 2014 22:49 |  #13

Don't read his article on the poppies at the Tower of London....you'll end wanting to hunt this fool down and ask your taxi driver to run him over.




  
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Nov 16, 2014 07:26 |  #14

monkey44 wrote in post #17274252 (external link)
We attended a Norman Rockwell show on Cape Cod a couple years ago. He always worked from photographs and combined portions of different images to create his paintings.

Quite an interesting exhibition ... and even more interesting to see how he "extracted" individual parts of each image to create the final paintings.

Norman Rockwell also used various optical projectors to make his paintings like photographs




  
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Nov 16, 2014 07:40 |  #15

Perspective and foreshortening have always been a problem for painters. Many used a camera obscura to help them deal with that problem and they were doing it a long, lone time before Rockwell was born.
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