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Advice on used 1D mark III

 
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Nov 14, 2014 15:20 |  #31

05Xrunner wrote in post #17271914 (external link)
how is it not to good ISO performance. I never thought twice shooting ISO 3200 on that camera as it was very clean and even 6400 looked good.

I agree. The noise on the 1d files is very uniform that if you have to use noise reduction the files stay very crisp with a good amount of detail.




  
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Nov 14, 2014 15:52 |  #32

johnf3f wrote in post #17260084 (external link)
According to Rob Galbraith the fastest cards in a 1D3 were the Sandisk Extreme 3 8GB SD cards. A friend of mine bought a couple for his 1D3 and they were certainly faster than the Sandisk Extreme 4 8GB CF cards.
The 1D3 seems to be the only DSLR that is actually quicker with SD cards!

THE RG Card database was dismantled some time ago, with none of the archives available, and none of the latest bodes added either. It seems to be now just a brief snapshot around 2012.

Any reference to the 1D3 is gone as far as I can tell, but even if someone has the info, the last time it was tested was some time ago.

I wonder if the SD card performance advantage on the 1D3 is real? OR just where the tech was at that point in time? Frankly I don't think I ever noticed it.


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Nov 15, 2014 04:29 |  #33

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Oops, didn't mean to make you feel bad... was not really expecting that you went to a 1D4 although I guess that is the logical progression. Yes, the 1D3 does have its limitations... it is an old camera now.

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Enjoy your 1D4 and do report back on it. I often wonder whether I didn't give mine enough of a chance before jumping ship and still look at used ones for sale now and then...

Well, I have the 1D4 now, and the 1D3 is at it's new home.
I took exactly one image with the 1D4 to make sure it was OK; I can tell you the LCD is ORDERS of magnitude better! The image was at ISO 1600, natural light inside, with a 24-105, and it is just as clean as I would expect the 1D3's to be; I've just looked at the RAW, but the colour and contrast seem very similar to it's predecessor (I shoot in Faithful picture style and am comparing how it looks in that guise).

I'll comment some more when I get the chance.

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Nov 15, 2014 13:13 |  #34

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17272250 (external link)
THE RG Card database was dismantled some time ago, with none of the archives available, and none of the latest bodes added either. It seems to be now just a brief snapshot around 2012.

Any reference to the 1D3 is gone as far as I can tell, but even if someone has the info, the last time it was tested was some time ago.

I wonder if the SD card performance advantage on the 1D3 is real? OR just where the tech was at that point in time? Frankly I don't think I ever noticed it.

Yes the site "Stopped" in 2012 and the older models were deleted - pity.
Not comprehensive but we tried the following CF cards:
Sandisk Extreme 4 (4GB), Transcend 300X 8GB, Transcend 400x 16GB, Duracell 600x (GB?) and Kingston 266x 4GB. In all cases the Sandisk Exteme 3 8GB SD cards were faster.
I believe that the 1D3 does not support UDMA so this may be the cause of this.
The reason I mentioned this is that the OP can use cards that are really cheap now and still get the best out of his camera.
Again it is a shame that Rob's site has not been updated as it was a very useful source of information.


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Nov 16, 2014 03:19 |  #35

Compared to 6D it sucks at hing ISO. Simply because 6D is better (dont need to do NR with ISO 3200 with 6D at all). I am not saying that 1D3 wouldnt be useless, but it has its limitations because its old camera. However 1D3 has better AF, fps, battery life weather-sealing and build quality than 6D.


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Nov 17, 2014 09:01 |  #36

That's why I have both. :D


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Nov 17, 2014 10:21 |  #37

Your comparing a body about 6years older then a full frame camera that has much newer tech. The 1D3 still holds its own in higher iso. I would take its ability over any aps-c body except 7D2


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Nov 17, 2014 16:36 |  #38

It's almost as if high ISO performance isn't the only measure of a camera.


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Nov 18, 2014 02:19 |  #39

dog rocket wrote in post #17276949 (external link)
That's why I have both. :D

Me too. ;)

Yeah I am comparing 6 year old camera. And its no match in terms of ISO performance to 6D. I didnt mean to upset anyone. However 1D3 has its limitations.


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Nov 21, 2014 14:47 |  #40

For me they are a perfect compliment to each other without having too much money wrapped into 2 bodies. I shoot sports sparingly, and the ID3 still fills that role with aplomb. The sports I shoot include my daughters' sports which are both daytime, outdoor sports. High ISO need not apply. Also, one thing that isn't spoken about much these days with massive resolution being the end all: these great big pixels on the 1D3 make some of the smoothest images I've seen with any of my cameras and I personally love the look for portraiture, etc <gasp! a sports camera for portraiture? That dude is nuts>

Meanwhile, the 6D fills in ALL the other gaps: high ISO, small and light body, resolution, etc. A GREAT camera if you like to dink with alternative lenses.

These two cameras together are worth less than one 5D3 and to me they both reach further in both directions (light and fast) than a single camera can. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...


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Nov 21, 2014 15:11 |  #41

Mike Deep wrote in post #17277916 (external link)
It's almost as if high ISO performance isn't the only measure of a camera.

In photography alot of it has to do with timing of what you document. Also obtaining a "locK" in AF to capture the moment without blurr or soft images.

However if your talking about noise control/high ISO you must take into account that many new camera's now will produce much better detailed files than the 1dmk3 at high iso.

When i owned a 1dmk3 and had to make a choice between 5dmk2 and 5dc. I would choose the more modern for obvious reasons.... but also grab the 5dc for portaits vs using the 1dmk3. 5dc produces an organic look compared to the 5dmk2.

When people print it will hide noise much better than when you view the photo on your monitor. The critical eyes these days want eye candy on the monitors as a benchmark for analyzing image quality since there is less and less printing in this modern age.

I was not overly impressed with my 1dmk3 when it came to high iso performance in challenging light. However it seemed to clean up noise much better than the 7d when using light room.

High iso has alot of weight because if your RAW file falls apart this means your images will not be as clean and detailed due to loss of information in the noise. Even the latest micro 4/3 camera's for still photography have cleaner/equiv files at high iso than a 1dmk3.


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Dec 11, 2014 02:26 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #42

Shooting my sons' school rugby games in the last month has necessitated the use of 'HI' ISO settings - i.e. ISO 6400 - to maintain an adequate shutter speed for freezing action. If you pixel peep, then it does look bad. However for web or tablet-based viewing, it's surprisingly good. I should say that this is jpeg straight from the camera. I'm sure a little post processing would improve matters even more.


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