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Nov 17, 2014 14:52 |  #4201

eriet30 wrote in post #17277673 (external link)
...pending $ and rumors of next gen

I like that strategy. Waiting is best since we're just a few months away from the big announcement.

BTW, regarding using the TS-E, I also love that with the in-EVF electronic level it's super-easy to shift and/or tilt while keeping the camera level - all while hand-holding the camera. On a Canon DSLR shooting the TS-E handheld is more challenging.


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Nov 17, 2014 16:43 |  #4202

David Arbogast wrote in post #17277720 (external link)
I like that strategy. Waiting is best since we're just a few months away from the big announcement.

BTW, regarding using the TS-E, I also love that with the in-EVF electronic level it's super-easy to shift and/or tilt while keeping the camera level - all while hand-holding the camera. On a Canon DSLR shooting the TS-E handheld is more challenging.

The 5D Mark III does have an in-view finder level... it's a custom function.
http://support-au.canon.com.au …nts/AU/EN/82013​59200.html (external link)


However, it is easier to focus a TS-E lens with focus peaking.


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Nov 17, 2014 17:19 |  #4203

eriet30 wrote in post #17277518 (external link)
Rented the A7R and metab 4 for a Monument Valley Day.

I really liked it but did not like the controls overall. I am still tempted but may want to wait until Feb to see what they announce for next generation.

Favorite feature is focus peaking with the 24 TSE was really cool

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beautiful shots! I like 14.4x zoom that really lets me see the details while focusing.

You'll get used to the controls, though I do find Canon ergonomics to be grade A.

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Also, there is one glaring omission from the a7 menus: no mirror lockup. Anywhere. What was Sony thinking?? Kidding, of course. ;) :lol:

That's an easter egg feature in the A7 menu. You haven't figured it out yet? :lol:

By the way, stunning shot (Prairie Fire) over at TS-E24 thread. Which camera did you use?



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Nov 17, 2014 17:34 |  #4204

Mornnb wrote in post #17277932 (external link)
The 5D Mark III does have an in-view finder level... it's a custom function.
http://support-au.canon.com.au …nts/AU/EN/82013​59200.html (external link)

However, it is easier to focus a TS-E lens with focus peaking.

Good point. Yeah, the 1DX has that in-view "level" too. It is there, but that doesn't mean it is any good. I've tried it, but haven't warmed to it. I much prefer the 5D III's live view electronic level (lines vs. spaced out dots). And the a7 electronic level is similar to the 5D III's live view level, but it displays right in the EVF. Much nicer and more intuitive to my brain anyway. :)

Basically, I'm just saying that having an EVF affords several niceties that make hand-hold shooting the TS-E on the a7 more pleasurable experience than on the 5D III: 1. peaking, 2. view magnification, 3. a truly cool level.

When hand-hold shooting my 5D III + TS-E, I typically use my Zacuto Z-Finder - which just turns live view into a make-shift EVF.


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Nov 17, 2014 17:39 |  #4205

David Arbogast wrote in post #17278027 (external link)
Good point. Yeah, the 1DX has that in-view "level" too. It is there, but that doesn't mean it is any good. I've tried it, but haven't warmed to it. I much prefer the 5D III's live view electronic level (lines vs. spaced out dots). And the a7 electronic level is similar to the 5D III's live view level, but it displays right in the EVF. Much nicer and more intuitive to my brain anyway. :)

Basically, I'm just saying that having an EVF affords several niceties that make hand-hold shooting the TS-E on the a7 more pleasurable experience than on the 5D III: 1. peaking, 2. view magnification, 3. a truly cool level.

When hand-hold shooting my 5D III + TS-E, I typically use my Zacuto Z-Finder - which just turns live view into a make-shift EVF.

I agree, I think the OVF leveling is horrible.... I do think that canon's leveling is generally better than sony's. it's more strict and precise. Canon might be 0.2% +- and sony 0.5% +-

probably close enough for most folks, but it bugs me a little.


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Nov 17, 2014 17:40 |  #4206

Mu Eugene wrote in post #17277999 (external link)
That's an easter egg feature in the A7 menu. You haven't figured it out yet? :lol:

By the way, stunning shot (Prairie Fire) over at TS-E24 thread. Which camera did you use?

:lol: Hehe...I'm slow to find those easter eggs!

Thanks for the kind remark on my photo! That was a seven-exposure hdr from my 5D III.

I can't believe I haven't done it yet, but I want and need to do some tests to compare image quality from 5D III vs a7R. Per my comments above, I typically use my TS-E 24 II on my a7R for single hand-held exposures. But, if it's on a tripod and AEB brackets I like using my 5D III.

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I agree, I think the OVF leveling is horrible.... I do think that canon's leveling is generally better than sony's. it's more strict and precise. Canon might be 0.2% +- and sony 0.5% +-

probably close enough for most folks, but it bugs me a little.

You're right on Charlie - I've noticed that too. While I love the a7 level, I too have noticed it's less precise than I want. It annoys me to get the camera "level" and be able to rock the camera around and it's still "level".


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Nov 17, 2014 17:41 as a reply to  @ StudioAbe's post |  #4207

Decided to overprocess this one outside the limits of my usual comfort level. Using the "camera deep" process option in LR yielded a product that almost delineates each single leaf of a tree.

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Nov 17, 2014 18:29 |  #4208

color saturation is fine with me. for my own taste what annoys me sometimes is over sharpening. be a little easy on sharpening and that would be great. just my own taste.

color is great.


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Nov 17, 2014 18:29 |  #4209

check this out.... a software that can improve the sharpness of your lens?

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Nov 17, 2014 18:30 as a reply to  @ StudioAbe's post |  #4210

^^ oh man.. love those tree colors.

as for your picture, at first I thought it was messed up, but its just a train passing by ;p




  
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Nov 17, 2014 18:31 |  #4211

Looks good, not really over processed.




  
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Nov 17, 2014 19:15 |  #4212

vinmunoz wrote in post #17278157 (external link)
color saturation is fine with me. for my own taste what annoys me sometimes is over sharpening. be a little easy on sharpening and that would be great. just my own taste.

color is great.


Believe it or not, it's actually left at 25 (default) on LR slider scale, and toned down to 0.8 (LR default is 1). I share the same view re: sharpening. I especially cringe when I see oversharpened photos with white artifacts beginning to appear.

I think it's a testament to A7R's sensor technology.



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Nov 17, 2014 19:17 |  #4213

Mu Eugene wrote in post #17278042 (external link)
Decided to overprocess this one outside the limits of my usual comfort level. Using the "camera deep" process option in LR yielded a product that almost delineates each single leaf of a tree.

Taken w/ 70-300L

Nice color!

vinmunoz wrote in post #17278157 (external link)
color saturation is fine with me. for my own taste what annoys me sometimes is over sharpening. be a little easy on sharpening and that would be great. just my own taste.

color is great.

I disagree with your "oversharpening" complaints. I think the main issue here is having to downsample a high-details image for POTN viewing - not enough pixels with too much leaf detail. I don't see tell-tale signs of oversharpening (halos), but maybe I'm just not perceptive enough.


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Nov 17, 2014 19:43 |  #4214

Mu Eugene wrote in post #17278241 (external link)
Believe it or not, it's actually left at 25 (default) on LR slider scale, and toned down to 0.8 (LR default is 1). I share the same view re: sharpening. I especially cringe when I see oversharpened photos with white artifacts beginning to appear.

I think it's a testament to A7R's sensor technology.

Perhaps ur lens is really sharp.


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Nov 17, 2014 19:48 |  #4215

David Arbogast wrote in post #17278244 (external link)
Nice color!


I disagree with your "oversharpening" complaints. I think the main issue here is having to downsample a high-details image for POTN viewing - not enough pixels with too much leaf detail. I don't see tell-tale signs of oversharpening (halos), but maybe I'm just not perceptive enough.

It's not a complain but more of a concern just in case the poster is unaware. Simply correct me if i'm wrong. :)


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