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Nov 14, 2014 23:04 |  #2431

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Nov 14, 2014 23:05 |  #2432

Dorian7 wrote in post #17272426 (external link)
another question for you guys - I just learned that the A7/R/S doesn't have an external flash that utilizes an on flash AF assist light. I see this being somewhat of a problem with during wedding receptions. Any feedback on this potential issue?

Also I have read a lot about the A7 having issues with low light AF (like even just indoor photos). How overblown is this issue?

People actually use AF lens on the A7x? :lol:

Sorry, not laughing at your question, I just know a lot of people with Sony A7x's and not one of them has an actual native E-mount lens. :)


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Nov 16, 2014 06:40 |  #2433

Dorian7 wrote in post #17272426 (external link)
Also I have read a lot about the A7 having issues with low light AF (like even just indoor photos). How overblown is this issue?

The a7r uses contrast detect AF...so in low contrast like (like flatly lit, low light indoor shots) the AF really will struggle to lock. Even with native lenses, the AF is slower than what you'd be used to using a DSLR's phase detect AF....which is why many of us who use the system, are leaning on the cameras focus peaking system, which works really well. Once you get the hang of it, you can manually focus extremely quickly.

The upside to contrast detect AF, is that its significantly more accurate than phase detect AF., as its not subject to the calibration issues that a DSLR's AF system is. Goes a particularly long way when shooting with fast aperture lenses, as the system can nail the focus at a more granular level than phase detect AF can. The focus peaking system is driven by the contrast detect AF system, and you can see via the viewfinder that its capable for refining the focus down to a person's eyeballs, whereas phase detect AF will very generally lock on the side of a person's face.


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Nov 16, 2014 19:25 |  #2434

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Nov 16, 2014 19:51 |  #2435

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Nov 17, 2014 23:01 |  #2436

An experiment tonight. Outdoors at night. Light source is the large fluorescent bulb in the stand to which this handle is attached. Sony A7R, Metabones IV, Canon 90mm TSE, tilt used, ISO auto at 1250. 1/200s @ f9. Edited for contrast and noise, cropped by 50 percent. Handheld.


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Nov 18, 2014 03:47 |  #2437

I was leaning towards Nikon when i was back to market as i realized that Canon is still careless on the camera body side.

And i realized people talking about Sony A7 on the forum a lot, found this thread.

I should know what i get myself into when i returned back to POTN :/


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Nov 18, 2014 16:01 |  #2438

The 5D Mark III and a7R make a good pair and can share lenses.


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Nov 18, 2014 16:22 |  #2439

Mornnb wrote in post #17280000 (external link)
The 5D Mark III and a7R make a good pair and can share lenses.

Agree. Great combo - each strong in different ways. :)


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Nov 18, 2014 17:47 |  #2440

Mornnb wrote in post #17280000 (external link)
The 5D Mark III and a7R make a good pair and can share lenses.

Would you say when you sum them up it becomes D810 which can't use Canon lenses?


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Nov 18, 2014 20:27 |  #2441

Not even close. The 5D3 and a7r have their own individual strengths each better in their own way than an 810. Not to say an 810 isn't a good camera but it's not mirrorless and doesn't respond with the speed of a 5D3.




  
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Nov 18, 2014 21:39 as a reply to  @ jmaher's post |  #2442

I haven't shot with a 5D3 but the couple of times I've played with D810 bodies in store, they haven't seemed slow by any margin


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Nov 18, 2014 22:28 |  #2443

D810 is a fantastic camera! Plenty fast. Canon lenses are better suited on the a7 cameras because of smart adapters that communicate to the camera (good for lens EXIF data, which is valuable for applying lens profiles in the raw converter to correct lens aberations). I wish there was a good smart adapter for Nikon lenses.


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Nov 18, 2014 22:41 |  #2444

The D810 is a fantastic camera. That doesn't mean it has all the best attributes of an A7r and a 5D3 combined or that either one of them is better than an 810. They all have their individual strengths. To be fair I have only occasionally shot an D800 but have owned a 5D3 and an A7r. I understand the 810 is better than an 800.




  
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Nov 19, 2014 00:32 |  #2445

Thanks for the inputs. I read the strengths on the net. Was hoping to get answers what sides of the cameras they find better from real world users.


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