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Nov 16, 2014 19:31 |  #1

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So your out with you dslr and 300mm zoom on a late afternoon, the light is fading a bit then you see a Heron flying with some young, they are putting
there foot down(wings lol) and flying at some speed, but you want to try to get a half decent hand held pic of them, do you -

A) up your ISO or let Auto creep up ab it into 4 figures, to give you more shutter speed and aperture.

B) up your shutter speed within ISO limits but open up your aperture, reducing IQ and facing a less sharp pic.

C) lower shutter speed but keep a narrower aperture, giving slightly better IQ(Lens sweet spot) but possibly a bit of camera shake.

Say for sake of argument your lens is best at f8 and its not as good at its widest f5.6.

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Nov 16, 2014 19:42 |  #2

At 300 DOF isnt sn issue, so wide open, shutter speed at whatever I felt my min needed to stop motion and thrn let ISObridge the gap. Obviously there are body specific issues, if your camera is a high ISO champ then ho to f8.




  
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Nov 16, 2014 20:00 |  #3

gonzogolf wrote in post #17276038 (external link)
At 300 DOF isnt sn issue, so wide open, shutter speed at whatever I felt my min needed to stop motion and thrn let ISObridge the gap. Obviously there are body specific issues, if your camera is a high ISO champ then ho to f8.

Thanks for the reply, my question was kind of round about way related to a real world event, it was getting late afternoon, the sun was getting low there was still light but not a great deal of it, the clouds where starting to show that orange glow, when a plane came over me quite low and not going ultra fast but still about 250knots, i was in man mode for exposure and using f8 for my sweet spot, my ISO was already at 800 but my exposure meter was telling me it was to low, i didn't want to open up my aperture so i dropped the shutter speed to 1/400, and centered the meter.
When i checked my pic it was in focus ok nice and sharp, but even with the VR on my lens there was a lot of shake///, so i binned the pic despite great light and good focus etc.

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Nov 16, 2014 20:07 |  #4

If the plane is on the correct angle you can get away with slower shutter speeds if you csn pan with it.




  
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Nov 16, 2014 20:15 |  #5

gonzogolf wrote in post #17276097 (external link)
If the plane is on the correct angle you can get away with slower shutter speeds if you csn pan with it.

I was following it and i followed through as i do with most of my planes, perhaps my hand was just not as steady, i was sitting down and had my side supported against a wall, i have done better but wondered in a similar situation what folks might do?

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Nov 16, 2014 23:01 |  #6

fastest shutter-speed possible, probably achieved by upping the ISO. I'll often put up with grainy, but not blurry...


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Nov 16, 2014 23:53 |  #7

Ditto.
a little noise is better than a lot of blur.

Also, as Gonzo mentioned, you can pan with the subject, at low shutter speeds, but that's a totally different sort of shot...

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Nov 17, 2014 00:00 |  #8

Easy; kick ISO up to between 1600 and 3200, depending on how low the shot was metering.


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Nov 17, 2014 22:15 |  #9

Wide open aperture, and whatever ISO necessary to get a sufficiently fast shutter speed. Better to have an otherwise good but noisy shot than a shot which has low noise but is ruined by motion blur.


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Nov 17, 2014 22:34 |  #10

Bump the ISO to whatever I needed to get the shot. As it has been said, a bit of noise is better than blur.


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Nov 18, 2014 06:44 |  #11

What can your VR do? I understand VR can work against you when panning. some canon lenses have a panning mode OS switch.


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Nov 18, 2014 07:32 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17276456 (external link)
Ditto.
a little noise is better than a lot of blur.

Also, as Gonzo mentioned, you can pan with the subject, at low shutter speeds, but that's a totally different sort of shot...
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Nov 18, 2014 13:18 |  #13

Is this with a Nikon? I've got some BIF settings I can email you (assuming I can find them).




  
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Nov 18, 2014 13:39 |  #14

Panning seems to be the obvious choice, but with a flying bird, you are going to have a tougher time since the birds wings are going to be moving even in glide mode. I think your key consideration is getting a fast enough shutter speed to stop the action. I think someone mentioned that the deep end of 300 mm, the DOF even at 5.6 or a little above that is going to be pretty large anyway. Even if the sweet spot is at f8, I would probably bump up to somewhere between 5.6 and 8. Then let the ISO sit on auto. I am spoiled with my 6D as it really doesn't have issues at high ISO.
But to get the shot on any body, I would be opposed to letting the ISO creep to 3200 or even 6400 if needed. You can clean up noise in PP, the same can't be said for motion blur or missed focus.


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Nov 18, 2014 13:44 |  #15

Pagman wrote in post #17276084 (external link)
When i checked my pic it was in focus ok nice and sharp, but even with the VR on my lens there was a lot of shake///, so i binned the pic despite great light and good focus etc.

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I actually save pictures which I think might be salvagable in the future. I tell myself its just a matter of time before LR/PS or someone figures out an easy algorithm that can correct for this, especially if you had good focus, but only shake, on that pic


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