Can someone identify please

Saw this beauty flying over today very high up, when i checked it i first thought it was buzzard but on closer inspection i dont think it is, i know its not a red tail either, it doesn't look like a goshawk or falcon or kestral.
Any ideas folks

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I am thinking maybe a Broad Winged Hawk. A little hard to make out the tail and wing markings but this is what I think it is.

JTF wrote in post #17280070
I am thinking maybe a Broad Winged Hawk. A little hard to make out the tail and wing markings but this is what I think it is.

Just to explain the location it was shot is south wales Uk.

P.

That's a bird, a raptor. maybe a coppers

I'm going with Coopers bc of the striped tail.

I think it is a Juvenile Goshawk by the shape of the wings, the wing tips, the pattern on the tail and the shape of the tail.

TedEllis wrote in post #17280113
That's a bird, a raptor. maybe a coppers

Hi ted, i gathered it was a bird, i was shooting planes as well and i could tell the difference, the planes where big metal shinny things

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could also be a red shouldered hawk

Wing and tail markings match Cooper's and Red shoulder, but the long tail looks like Cooper's.

lovemyram4x4 wrote in post #17280729
Wing and tail markings match Cooper's and Red shoulder, but the long tail looks like Cooper's.

good call

I would say Sparrow-hawk.

Kev

seall wrote in post #17280151
I think it is a Juvenile Goshawk by the shape of the wings, the wing tips, the pattern on the tail and the shape of the tail.

Ditto

Sparrowhawk.

UK raptor, so would think possibly Sparrowhawk.

Any indication of size would help - how did it compare to say a Kestrel or Buzzard??

Richard

Any indication of where in the world this was taken?? May help eliminate some of the contenders