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Nov 27, 2014 16:35 |  #2701

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It might be the original file with little crop, but it is significantly resized here on the web. Can you point us to a link to the full size jpg to have a look?

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Nov 27, 2014 16:37 |  #2702

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #17296159 (external link)
That sounds exactly like my 7D. :(

I have no experience with the 7D (having switched to Canon only this year), but in low light / low contrast situations I'm not happy yet. The 5D3 certainly has no trouble, so that's my point of reference. The thing is, the AF of the 7DII is blazingly fast, faster than the 5D3. The 7DII drives my 400/5.6 so quickly as I only remember from my days with a 200/2. If only it also were precise! It would be good if it would just slow down in poor light and be more accurate. Maybe I'll find some setting for that...

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Thorston. Nice shots. Your there. keep playing with it. Love mine.

Thank you! Aside from some starting trouble, it is an amazing camera.

Phoenixkh wrote in post #17296382 (external link)
I'm still struggling with birds in flight at semi high ISOs like 1600. I'm guessing it's my Case settings since I am getting good results in AI Servo with stationary birds. I'll be trying some more tomorrow.... but that will be it for a while. I start working 6 days a week Saturday. That will continue until January so my time will be limited.

In poor light I haven't even tried BIF, since I've had trouble even with stationary subjects. But in good light I'm now using Case 4, Large Zone AF and AI Servo of course. I've set up the AF-ON button for Single Point AF and the "*" button for Large Zone AF, so I can quickly switch between stationary and flying birds. It works well so far (in good light anyway).


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Nov 27, 2014 17:32 as a reply to  @ Thorsten's post |  #2703

You guys need to slow that tracking down for BIF's. You can do it in case 1 and case 2. Hit the rate button in case 1. This will allow you to go to tracking and set it to -1 or -2. Keeps it on the bird better. Also, set a! servo 1st image prioity to focus. This put the emphasis on focus v/s speed. Im finding way more keepers with these settings

Any other Bird guys please contribute. I set up case 2 with -1 for tracking and set Accel/decell to 1....seemed to help


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Nov 27, 2014 19:12 |  #2704

I agree with the post above. Ive had very accurate focus with slowing down the tracking to -2 and setting the 1st and 2nd image priorities to focus. Im using Case 2 for BIF as well.


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Nov 27, 2014 19:59 |  #2705

^ Thanks guys, I'll try that! I have 1st image priority at focus already but have not played with the tracking settings in the various cases yet.


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Nov 27, 2014 22:03 |  #2706

Thorsten wrote in post #17296119 (external link)
So far this has been a much tougher camera for me to get sharp pictures out of, compared to the 5D3. I'm on my 2nd copy, and even this one required a lot of AFMA and fiddling with the settings. I'm still not 100% sure the camera is ok: I.e. when the contrast is low, it tends to miss focus a lot. But at least in good light it's getting there. Here are a few shots with the 400/5.6, at f/5.6. Shot in JPEG (I haven't started my RAW workflow yet while I'm fiddling with the camera)...

See this post. It might shed some light.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=17294404&pos​tcount=703


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Nov 27, 2014 22:29 |  #2707

Phoenixkh wrote in post #17296382 (external link)
I'm still struggling with birds in flight at semi high ISOs like 1600. I'm guessing it's my Case settings since I am getting good results in AI Servo with stationary birds. I'll be trying some more tomorrow.... but that will be it for a while. I start working 6 days a week Saturday. That will continue until January so my time will be limited.

Try -2 AF tracking; it's your friend. It keeps the AF point on the bird much longer. It also would hold focus a bit longer just in case you miss the bird the focus won't rack way out of focus and allows you some time to try and reacquire focus. My BIF and Sports settings are the same for these very reasons.

I just did a test. I used a coffee cup and a calculator. I just acquired AF on the coffee cup and then panned to the calculator. I used -2, -1 and +2 tracking settings. Nothing scientific, just me counting to see how long it took for AF to switch to new object.

Setting -2; it took approx. 2 seconds to switch focus to the calculator
Setting -1: it took approx 1 second to switch focus to the calculator
Setting +2; it immediately switch focus to the calculator


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Nov 28, 2014 00:26 |  #2708

Not in flight but I think I got pretty close on focus.

IMAGE: http://gallery.thomasdowdphotography.com/img/s10/v98/p609459874-4.jpg

This was with the 17-55.

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Nov 28, 2014 00:59 |  #2709

Hahaha...nicely played sir!


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Nov 28, 2014 00:59 |  #2710

Methodical wrote in post #17296890 (external link)
See this post. It might shed some light.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=17294404&pos​tcount=703

Thank you! I've observed the issues even with the center AF point, though.


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Nov 28, 2014 03:09 |  #2711

Tom_D wrote in post #17296991 (external link)
Not in flight but I think I got pretty close on focus.

This was with the 17-55.

Pic isn't working for me. It's lost critical sharpness on the eye. :D




  
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Nov 28, 2014 05:48 |  #2712

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Pic isn't working for me. It's lost critical sharpness on the eye. :D

...and where's the fine feather detail? :)




  
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Nov 28, 2014 06:16 |  #2713

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...and where's the fine feather detail? :)

LOL

I already slowed things down in Case 1 and 4.... and I've been using expanded center point (4 extra points). As I said, I'm fairly confident it's me and the learning curve. We are the beach in GA and yesterday was crazy: 50 MPH winds and an older son whose flights got messed up coming in from CA. He had to switch to another airport 3 hours away, give or take a few minutes.

Needless to say, I didn't get to try anything yesterday. We'll see if I get a few shots in today before I have to head home. It's too cold for a Floridian to go outside here at the moment. ;)


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Nov 28, 2014 09:35 |  #2714

Tom_D wrote in post #17294471 (external link)
Can you do a conversion to DNG with Adobe's DNG Converter (external link) and then edit the DNG files with Aperture?

Thank's for the link Tom and stsva, it's now just a matter of waiting to get a decent bit of weather to go out and get some photo's.




  
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Nov 28, 2014 10:11 |  #2715

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Thank's for the link Tom and stsva, it's now just a matter of waiting to get a decent bit of weather to go out and get some photo's.

Good luck with the weather and have fun with your new camera.


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