Sorry to say but

Ralph III wrote in post #17307253
Can't stand it either! Seriously, it went from being my favorite website to one of the poorest sites I've ever come across. Secondly, this used to be a place dedicated to Canon users. That is now lost in what seems like some sort of sales gimmick.

Do they hope to gain some monetary benefits by adding all the other camera manufactures or are they in hopes of selling this software? Don't know who'd buy it....

Ralph

Have you paid any attention to the forum over the last few years? It hasn't been a dedicated Canon based forum for a very long time, other brands have been welcome. Now instead of other brands being mixed in the Canon areas they all have their own sections.

Thank you for that. It seems silly that it wouldn't be in settings though.

Also, clicking on that has no effect on the text on the home page. The text is still very small. If I make the text larger using the browser, it makes other pages way too big. So my options are to use a separate browser for POTN and keep the text large or use it as is and sit way closer to the screen. I'll try and upload a picture.

Pekka wrote in post #17306902
On the bottom of each page is JUMP TO FORUM... command.

thanks for this, it's exactly what i was looking for

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17306909
The "breadcrumbs", as they call it in some IT circles, is still at the top and bottom of the page. For example here, you can see the following:
FORUMS → Community Talk, Chatter & Official Stuff → AMASS Forum Software Talk, all of those links to different forums or sections.

Is that what you were looking for, or was it what Pekka pointed out?

yes it was what pekka pointed out...but thanks...although you may have pointed out something else i don't like "dodgerblue" color....go giants

Ralph III wrote in post #17307253
Can't stand it either! Seriously, it went from being my favorite website to one of the poorest sites I've ever come across. Secondly, this used to be a place dedicated to Canon users. That is now lost in what seems like some sort of sales gimmick.

Do they hope to gain some monetary benefits by adding all the other camera manufactures or are they in hopes of selling this "A-Mess" software?

Ralph

I guess that proves how frequently you visited the forum. This has not been a dedicated Canon forum for years...There is constant talk about Canon and Nikon in almost every thread. You seem a bit lost...

Ralph III wrote in post #17307253
Do they hope to gain some monetary benefits by adding all the other camera manufactures or are they in hopes of selling this "A-Mess" software?

Neither one. "They" (it's a he, actually) are responding to members' requests to add the other brands.

You can hide all the subforums you don't want to see, such as the ones for camera brands. Go far down on the main page and find "FILTER FORUMS FROM YOUR VIEW."

Ralph III wrote in post #17307253
Can't stand it either! Seriously, it went from being my favorite website to one of the poorest sites I've ever come across. Secondly, this used to be a place dedicated to Canon users. That is now lost in what seems like some sort of sales gimmick.

Do they hope to gain some monetary benefits by adding all the other camera manufactures or are they in hopes of selling this "A-Mess" software?

Ralph

Finally, in addition to what others have stated, where do you think all of these monetary gains are? The forums have been free, and I doubt too many people donate large sums of money, and there are no ads. Don't you realize this is the work of one person as more of a labor of love?

drvnbysound wrote in post #17307175

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17307159
Sticky threads were posted with videos, and notices about PM and subscriptions were documented too. Many members posted their thoughts as well. It wasn't a hidden affair, that is for certain. Long before Thanksgiving and bf...

Yep, again, missed those. Personally, I rarely check out the stickies unless I'm about to start a new thread and try look there before making a new thread.

Pekka also put up an announcement a few days before the transition. Up top every forum. Also present in New Posts. In red. Hard to miss.

Videos were in several places. During the transition when POTN was down, for instance, the Primer was there and included links to the videos. They're also in this sticky in Forum Talk that Pekka posted on 13 Nov: https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1406​871&page=1

Surely isn't it the content of the forum that is important, and NOT the appearance of the forum.

All I can say to Pekka is:

Please hire a proper designer to design a better visual for the forum.

At the moment the overall visual of this forum is like something found in a Windows 95 software, like Encarta Encyclopaedia or some ****.

Ok, Pekka, you did a good job developing/ coding the back-end. But it's very far from being user friendly.

So sit back & go back to you drawing board please.

john crossley wrote in post #17307623
Surely isn't it the content of the forum that is important, and NOT the appearance of the forum.

Since it is a community forum, yes the content of the forum is of great importance. Pekka also wanted to create a forum that was visually beautiful and one that had some amazing features that made functionality easier and more fun for us.

Ralph III wrote in post #17307253
Can't stand it either! Seriously, it went from being my favorite website to one of the poorest sites I've ever come across. Secondly, this used to be a place dedicated to Canon users. That is now lost in what seems like some sort of sales gimmick.

Do they hope to gain some monetary benefits by adding all the other camera manufactures or are they in hopes of selling this "A-Mess" software?

Ralph

You can't stand it. That is fine. You are entitled to your opinion. But there is no need to be rude. Pekka devoted almost 6 years of his life to this and not to make money off of it. Here is what he said about it:

AMASS software not for sale, it is a proprietary POTN forum and site platform for our community.

Please be respectful when you complain.

virsago_mk2 wrote in post #17307626
All I can say to Pekka is:

Please hire a proper designer to design a better visual for the forum.

At the moment the overall visual of this forum is like something found in a Windows 95 software, like Encarta Encyclopaedia or some ****.

Ok, Pekka, you did a good job developing/ coding the back-end. But it's very far from being user friendly.

So sit back & go back to you drawing board please.

Wow, this is probably the most rude comment I've seen so far. People need to realize that the whole "90s" thing has already been mentioned about a hundred (at least) times. Also, to tell Pekka to "go back to the drawing board" is absolutely degrading. Pekka spent 5+ years coding this whole entire site from scratch. How could you disrespect someone's work by saying something like that? Be respectful...It amazes me that some people in this world still have no respect for other people's work. A comment this rude would get no response and an instant ban for life from me if I were a mod. (good thing I'm not).

i agree with the sentiment of the posts about the UI, but the message wasn't delivered very kindly.

the new forum software works very very well. the additional functionality is quite impressive (a huge improvement over the featureset of phpBB forums). that said, minor CSS and user flow changes are somethings that could be improved. i think there's just that last little bit of facelifting that would appease most of the complaints here.

You guys can pile it on if you like but this isn't just my opinion.

True, this forum hasn't been Canon only to the point of being 100% whereas a Nikon user wouldn't dare post here. It's silly to draw that conclusion and to imply I was stating such.

It however was a Canon forum given most of the threads or "specific" threads were always Canon related. Most of the Posts in such threads were Canon relevant. I think it safe to say the majority of POTN members joined because it was a Canon forum given such, etc. It has Canon written all over it. I think a Poll would clearly show that.


Two obvious examples are in the Market Place and with Google or Bing. I don't have to defend my comments and your attempts to undermine them are silly. I was simply stating facts.


*If you search the Market Place, the overwhelming list of gear "For Sale" or "Want to Buy" was always Canon relevant. Rarely did you see items listed for Nikon or Sony or other manufacturers and that says it all about this site. Now FM on the other hand it truly diversified and no comparison which makes the point.

*If you do a general search of the internet for "Canon forum" lo and behold what comes up first other than "Canon Digital Photography Forums" aka "Photography on the Net" and clearly states "For digital camera enthusiasts using Canon cameras."

http://www.bing.com …on+forum&src=IE​-SearchBox


I'm not trying to be disrespectful as this was my favorite website. However, they've taken a wonderful website for Canon users or Canon Family as it seemed, and have now lost that.


God Bless,
Ralph