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Firefighter Down Near LP Liquid Burn

 
ten31
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Dec 03, 2014 00:46 |  #1

Went down to the local college to watch a night burn. Let me know what you think.

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Dec 03, 2014 12:27 |  #2

Not bad if in a series of shots from different angles. I lose some interest in that the firefighter isn't the main focal point. I would have like to see it from a ground angle closer shot with more firefighter in the image.


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Dec 03, 2014 13:14 |  #3

I've performed those drills before, but I can't figure out what that guy is trying to accomplish. Regardless, its a good capture. Its not like a studio where one can rearrange the set. It was a good choice not to flash - the reflective material on the bunker gear is way too effective to allow that.


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Dec 03, 2014 13:27 as a reply to  @ iowajim's post |  #4

Something had fallen and he kicked it out from under the deflector.


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Dec 03, 2014 14:28 |  #5

Someone who works A LOT with fire is Benjamin Von Wong (external link). He came to Orlando once and we all had an impromptu workshop on capturing fire.

Your image is no doubt an awesome grab, and I love the action that you've captured, but the fire is completely blown out and uninteresting. What Ben taught us was to expose for the fire and in post production bring the black point all the way up. If you're shooting RAW, you'd be surprised how much of those dark, dark, dark details you can save while the fire stays perfectly exposed.

Here are a couple I managed to grab during the workshop. The shutter speed was really quick, like 1/1000. When I get home, I'll find the files so I can tell you what the exact settings I had for these photos were, and

I'll also post the before images, to give you an idea of how much of the blacks were saved.


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Dec 03, 2014 14:32 |  #6

Also, I would have taken the photo a little more to the right, or crop off some of the space on the left, and get your firefighter to the left third line-ish.




  
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Dec 04, 2014 16:55 as a reply to  @ lianweijun086's post |  #7

That is amazing feedback! Thank you. I had a difficult time trying to shoot the flame as you can see. May I send you the original and show me what you can salvage? The flames are totally blown out.

Here it is cropped to the right

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Dec 04, 2014 17:17 as a reply to  @ ten31's post |  #8

So what you want to to is expose for the fire itself. To do this, the rest of your photo will be SEVERELY underexposed. You're going to be shooting in the evening at f4 or 5.6, 1/1000 or 1/2000 second shutter, and iso of 100 or 200. This way you capture all of the details in the flame. Everything else is just really dark. Then you'd put the photo into LR and bring the blacks slider all the way to 100 to bring out the details. You want iso 100 or 200 so it's not terribly grainy or anything.

Unfortunately, with your photo, it won't be possible to pull those whites back to reveal all that detail. This information is really for you to try next time you have the opportunity to shoot something like this!




  
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