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Nov 21, 2014 10:06 |  #16

msowsun wrote in post #17285002 (external link)
Desmond Photographic Distributors is an American company based in Texas. I have a couple of their clamps and they are excellent quality. I suspect they are made in China because the prices are so low, but they seem to be made to a higher spec than the usual Chinese stuff.

http://www.desphotodis​t.com/ (external link)

S.C.V Photo has reviewed a lot of their products:

http://www.scvphotoide​as.com/search?q=desmon​d (external link)

Interesting. I noticed that they have a link to Sunwayfoto on the site, so for sure they have connections to China. Thanks for the info.


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Nov 21, 2014 10:40 |  #17

Desmond = for sure china...... Love their nodal rails (built in clamps on those rails).


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Nov 22, 2014 15:28 |  #18

What about "L" plates?

For example, for the 1Dx:

- FITTEST F1DXL
- SUNWAYFOTO PCL-1DX-L
- RRS B1DX-L
- SIRUI TY-1DXL
- KIRK QR #BL-1DX
- JOBU LB-C1DX
- Marsace CPL-1DX
- Mestos CD-1DXL
- ProMediaGear PLC1DX
- iShoot Universal Adjustable L Plate

All of the foregoing are "Arca Swiss" style dovetail plates.
All make some sort of accommodation for cord and port access
Some are modular, some carry their own tools, some are adjustable without loosening the base screw.
All are aluminum. Most are T-6061. Some didn't specify, but that may have been based on the reseller's marketing short comings.
Prices vary from a low of $59 USD to a high of $300 USD.
Never before have there been so many choices.

Any comparisons available?




  
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Nov 22, 2014 18:20 |  #19

It looks to me like Desmond has the same designs as Sunwayfoto... same maker? Good prices certainly.


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Nov 26, 2014 15:07 |  #20

We all have expensive cameras and lenses and tripods. The link among them all is the plate, L bracket or clamp. I carry my camera attached to the sticks on my shoulder all the time, and the thing I least want to worry about is a weak link, literally.

China is an iffy place regarding QC, some products are excellent, others fail quickly. For this and the above reason, I buy Markins and RRS parts. I would rather use a second-hand product from one of these companies than a new no-name knockoff. MHO.


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Nov 26, 2014 16:55 |  #21

tvphotog wrote in post #17294766 (external link)
China is an iffy place regarding QC, some products are excellent, others fail quickly. For this and the above reason, I buy Markins and RRS parts. I would rather use a second-hand product from one of these companies than a new no-name knockoff. MHO.

Can't say I've ever seen a failed clamp or plate, regardless of country of origin.




  
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Nov 26, 2014 17:02 |  #22

Strobo wrote in post #17294897 (external link)
Can't say I've ever seen a failed clamp or plate, regardless of country of origin.

Same here, but I have read about a guy carrying a FF with a 500mm lens on it on a tripod slung over his shoulder... as he was crossing a bridge the 1/4" screw failed. He hired a diver to recover the gear, but it was a total loss.

That 1/4" screw was most likely American.


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Nov 29, 2014 22:06 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #23

I recently picked up a MeFOTO travel tripod with an arca-swiss clamp. Loved it and immediately converted all of my Manfrotto heads to arca-swiss clamps. Ended up going with Desmond clamps and plates, I've been very happy with the quality so far.


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Dec 01, 2014 21:14 |  #24

I am a hobby machinist and made a Arca-Swiss type plate just for the fun of it from aluminum. It worked and the bug bit me with the convenience and versatility of the design.
Then I bought a 500mm lens and a Arca-Swiss plate. Out of curiosity, I bought two Sunwayfoto plates of a similar size and compared them to the Arca-Swiss. Metal thickness and dimension differences were minimal when measured with a micrometer. As said before, it is just a piece of machined aluminum metal. The Arca-Swiss is definitely better finished but a good finish does not affect usability in my books.
I do replace the Chinese screws with stainless steel ones as I consider my plates to be permanently mounted to the lens. All my large lenses now have plates attached.


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Dec 02, 2014 14:15 |  #25

i found the metal thickness to be the main difference between a chinese vs the row plate.




  
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Dec 02, 2014 15:30 as a reply to  @ Charles Brown's post |  #26

I have a Pro Media Gear L Bracket on my ungripped 5D3 and a RRS L-Bracket on my 1D4. The RRS certainly looks better, but both function exactly as well as each other, and I think the Pro Media Gear was less than half as much ...

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Dec 04, 2014 02:30 |  #27

After comparing photos of all those different L plates in the list I made earlier in this thread, I came to two realizations.

1. It's impossible to tell how a bracket feels from a photo.

2. It's improbable to expect a healthy local economy, without sustaining it.

In the end, I decided to actively support my local economy, and purchased the only L brackets I'm aware of that provide a living wage to my fellow citizens.

Really Right Stuff, Made in USA.




  
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Dec 04, 2014 03:22 as a reply to  @ Charles Brown's post |  #28

When I add a lens or camera body to my gear, I factor in the cost of the appropriate lens plate and/or L bracket from either Kirk or Really Right Stuff. I realize their prices are much higher but I'm willing to pay the differential for several reasons. Maybe they see me coming but I'm OK with that.


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Dec 04, 2014 10:34 |  #29

I have some Desmond clamps for my tripods and they all work great with my various RRS L plates.




  
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Dec 04, 2014 15:31 |  #30

Charles Brown wrote in post #17310555 (external link)
After comparing photos of all those different L plates in the list I made earlier in this thread, I came to two realizations.

1. It's impossible to tell how a bracket feels from a photo.

2. It's improbable to expect a healthy local economy, without sustaining it.

In the end, I decided to actively support my local economy, and purchased the only L brackets I'm aware of that provide a living wage to my fellow citizens.

Really Right Stuff, Made in USA.

I'm not sure about the wisdom of supporting "local" overpriced goods.

Anyway, if you feel so loving to American companies, just send them a check for a few hundred dollars for nothing.

After that, you could go out and buy the equivalent quality low cost Chinese products. The end result would be the same as buying from RRS.


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