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STICKY: How to photograph a high school Senior - Part 2

 
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Dec 02, 2014 14:50 as a reply to  @ post 17305647 |  #1456

NYC? Oh yeah. And I'd imagine it'd be an extremely saturated market. :S


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Love the new watermark Tiff. Good to see you! Great pic as always. :love:


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Dec 07, 2014 08:15 |  #1459

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I find the more you show them, the more they tend to buy. Its my goal to sell a book or album, and they wont buy that if they only pick 5 or 10 pictures. So I tend to show 200-300 pictures from a typical 1.5 hour outdoor session *3 to 5 pictures of each pose*

* For those that say 300 is to many to show that they get overwhelmed, I havent found that. I show them the pictures, they say yes or no and the 300 gets reduced to 125 or so. The second round I have them pick their favorite of each pose and that goes from 125 to 40. then I have them pick what they want from the 40.

Ive tried showing them the best of each pose, but what I consider to be best and what the client prefers rarely matches up. They want personality, not perfection. So that is why I show them all the pictures *minus blurry* Ill leave some odd face ones since it makes them laugh and keeps the sales session light. Usually 2/3's of what they pick wouldnt have passed my first round of selections.

And since I show so many pictures I've found touching all them other than color and exposure to be a waste of time. I just warn them ahead of time that their not processed, that the final prints will be. They have seen my finished product online and on my walls, they know they wont get pictures with acne back.


Similar to what We do as well gerry. I am re-launching the senior business out here is Washington with our move. Just rebuilding the studio and Im going to get a nice portable monitor and take a 16x24 print with me and I will be doing sales at the clients home. That way I can show them whats its gonna look like on their walls and we are going to adopt a new price model as well. Basically we are gonig to be at a minimum investment of $350.00 and If clients reach $700.00 then they can have all digital files from session and I will process up to 10 for printing needs. They will be able to buy prints at costs with the digital file purchase. Gonna adopt the following


Basically we have 4 prices. 75.00 session fee added for us to go out and take the photos

Prints:
Mini - 2 4x6 or 2 5x7 ($50)
Small - 2 8x10, or any 1 size up to 16x24 ($175)
Standard - And size up to 24x36 ($245)
Large - Up to 30x40 ($375)

Digital Files-$125.00 each- Price drops to $50.00 per file. 3 files minimum purchase commitment
All digital file purchases allows you to get Prints at MFG costs

Canvas: These will be wraps
Small - $350- 16x20,16x24,20x30- includes digital file
Standard - $700 - 24x36 and sisez in the group- includes digital file
Large - $900-30x40 and sizes in that group- includes digital file

My goal is to get them to $700.00 and I will show then what my edited files look like v/s what a base file looks like with base LR adjustments

As of 2015 there is not a single lab left in the industry that will not sell the products that we buy to sell to clients to the general public at our direct prices. ANYONE can now download and order the same products for the same prices with a digital file. This started quietly with WHCC and now every labs sells to the public. Thats why we made the change


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Dec 07, 2014 08:36 |  #1460

a few b&w...

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Dec 08, 2014 02:02 |  #1461

Nice shots WillMeades! Kid has a good smile, would have liked to see him use it the other shots. Really liked the framing in the 3rd shot.


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Jan 05, 2015 13:42 as a reply to  @ post 17303082 |  #1463

Love this one! makes you think she is thinking about after graduation..




  
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Jan 05, 2015 13:44 as a reply to  @ post 17210643 |  #1464

Why do you feel the 400d isnt the right gear for Sr Photos?




  
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Jan 05, 2015 14:54 as a reply to  @ WadeT's post |  #1465

Gear is just a tool. A photographer learns to use his tool to create the image he wants. For me is a never ending study of light and ways to control it. Given a camera with ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed Control, good glass and a few light sources and modifiers a photographer should be able to create a good image.

My concern is not which camera I have, but learning how to use it. Study and practice.


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Feb 05, 2015 17:41 as a reply to  @ Ray Marrero's post |  #1466

I could not agree more that above. I just need to learn how to use what I have.




  
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Feb 06, 2015 10:25 |  #1467

Lately, I've been leaning towards the thinking that good glass is better than a good camera. I'm happy with the camera I have, I want to try better lenses.


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Interesting discussion about equipment. I just had my first senior shoot with my new Olympus m43 gear. My Canon kit was stolen after Christmas so I figured it was a good time to make the switch that I had been contemplating. I am very happy with the files coming out of the E-M1 and E-M5.

What do you think? Would you have guessed this was not a FF camera?

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Feb 08, 2015 11:56 |  #1469

I've only done one other senior portrait shoot and that was for a family member. I shot some for one of my wife's coworker's sons. How do you get someone to crack a smile when he just isn't prone to.

When he smiles, he has a great one!

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Feb 15, 2015 14:56 |  #1470

WillMeades wrote in post #17421815 (external link)
How do you get someone to crack a smile when he just isn't prone to.

Smile a lot yourself. Start your shoot on the wider side of lenses so you can be closer. Make fun of yourself and the process. It can be awkward having someone tell you to pose "Simon Says" style... but you can actually use the nervous energy to get some laughter. Just don't poke fun at them, or they might clam up and be unwilling to take risks.


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