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MichaelLynn Senior Member ![]() More info | Dec 07, 2014 21:22 | #1 any feedback or better similar product Michael Lynn JR.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] ![]() More info Post edited over 5 years ago by Wilt. (14 edits in all) | Dec 07, 2014 21:36 | #2 You will find little support for the relatively expensive Fong products here on POTN, when they offer little benefit that less expensive (1/10 the price)) alternatives have to offer. I did a test sequence, 6' from subject (pumpkin, oiled surface to mimic facial oil), flash exposure with indoor ambient underexposed by -3EV, camera mounted on tripod for identical subject framing. 1. Flash native lens only, 2. StoFen sized 'diffuser' (actually a Rosco Hilite flat filter to mimic StoFen on flash head pointed forward, with little light reflected back from ceiling), 3. 5" x 4" LightSphere-like Feta cheese frosted plastic home modifier I shot this again, after dark, outside (nothing to bounce off of) after dark Shot with Tamron 28-75mm on Canon 40D at 50mm f/3.2 ... (This was actually shot to demonstrate the effectiveness of a homemade flash modifier made from the plastic feta cheese container light modifier, not to be a portrait!) Not much softening of the edges of the shadows under the chin which are cast by a relatively small modifier! [keyword: Feta Fong] You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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Dec 07, 2014 21:43 | #3 I got one for Comic Con style conventions and found that it did not help at all. Luckily it did not cost me that much.
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Dec 07, 2014 22:18 | #4 |
werds "Yes, Sire. You'll shut your trap!" ![]() More info Post edited over 5 years ago by werds. | Dec 07, 2014 22:38 | #5 I got a collapsible for cheap on ebay. I am also not a professional so take my words with a grain of salt. Many people here will poopoo it and dog it to all ends. But if you view it through the prism of it being a light modifier that doesn't break any laws of physics than you will be ok. Gear: Nikon D750, Nikon D7200, Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS, Sigma 50-150 2.8 OS HSM EX , Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR1, Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC, Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC, Tamron 28-300mm Di VC PZD, Tamron 16-300mm VC PZD, Tamron 150-600 VC, Nikon AF-S 50mm 1.8, Nikon SB-900
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mathogre Goldmember ![]() More info | Dec 07, 2014 23:20 | #6 I like the Gary Fong Lightsphere, Powersnoot, and related gear. Do I use it all of the time? No, but then I don't use an umbrella all of the time either. I also use StoFen and Vello diffusers. Watch some of the Gary Fong videos on YouTube and decide for yourself how they compare and if they can work for you. Graham
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Dec 08, 2014 00:14 | #7 mathogre wrote in post #17319685 ![]() I like the Gary Fong Lightsphere, Powersnoot, and related gear. Do I use it all of the time? No, but then I don't use an umbrella all of the time either. I also use StoFen and Vello diffusers. Watch some of the Gary Fong videos on YouTube and decide for yourself how they compare and if they can work for you. The first photo was done with two Speedlite 580EX IIs, each with a Gary Fong Lightsphere. The second was done with a Gary Fong Powersnoot. ![]() ![]() Love the shot with the snoot!!! Michael Lynn JR.
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Dec 09, 2014 15:25 | #8 In my opinion I don't believe the lightsphere has much use. Like others have said you're better bouncing the light off a source if there is one and if there isn't anything to bounce off of the lightsphere isn't doing anything but gobbling up power. If you experiment with FEC, bounce and manually adjusting the power of the flash you'll probably be better off. Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.” - Alan Moore
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Dec 09, 2014 15:37 | #9 If you take the time to learn about light you'll understand why those don't work. Size of the light the light source at a given distance is what determines softness. Tne fong works, when it works, by spreading light around nearby surfaces making them act as the large light source. If you have nearby surfaces to bounce from you dont need the device. You would be better served by either getting an actual large light source off camera or a bounce card to help shape your bounce techniques.
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Dec 09, 2014 15:41 | #10 ![]() I did some playing around with modifiers when I bought a used 580EX II that came with an attachment of some sort. I can do more with a white 3x5 card and a rubber band, and that doesn't cost me near as much light or battery power. If I accidentally leave it on location, I am out about 2/3 of a cent. WARNING: I often dispense advice in fields I know little about!
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Dec 27, 2014 01:02 | #11 |
Phil V Goldmember 1,977 posts Likes: 75 Joined Jan 2005 Location: S Yorks UK More info | Buy the book 'the speedlighters handbook' by Syl Arena. Once you've read it, you'll know the how and why. Gear List
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Dec 27, 2014 04:39 | #13 The problem with posting sample photos taken with the product is the implied suggestion that the photo is good because of the product. Even those of us who dismiss the plastic diffusers will grudgingly admit you can take a good photo using one, but more often than not you can take the same good photo without it using bounce techniques. As for the snoot. A few cents with of craft foam and a rubber band will net you the same results.
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groundloop Senior Member 981 posts Likes: 37 Joined Jun 2012 More info | Dec 27, 2014 19:50 | #14 GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17323249 ![]() ..... I can do more with a white 3x5 card and a rubber band, and that doesn't cost me near as much light or battery power.....
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digital paradise How do I change this? ![]() More info Post edited over 5 years ago by digital paradise. | Dec 27, 2014 22:32 | #15 I'm going to go with gonzoglf on this one. After taking lighting courses, learning from this site and Neil van Niekerk I gave all of my diffusers which included two lightspheres away. Image Editing OK
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