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7D II OR 1D IV a do-all camera?

 
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Dec 04, 2014 09:00 as a reply to  @ post 17309393 |  #46

This may not be a lot of help, but I find almost every lens I try on my 1D4 (or before that, my 1D3) works quite well ... I use a 17-40 and 24-105 pairing the most, but my Sigma 8-16 works well on it from 12mm or so up, and I just shot a few with a Rokie 8mm fisheye of a church interior. Longer lenses work fine, of course.

The only lens in my cupboard I haven't used on it are the Sigma 30 and the Samyang 24mm TS, and I plan to try out the latter soon.

Like CDS, what I hear about the 7D2 so far is all I know, but I'm finding the results I get with the 1D4 are so close to what I get with my 5D3 that it doesn't seem to matter which one I use (with the exception of fast moving stuff, that's for the 1D4) ...

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Dec 04, 2014 10:35 |  #47

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I wish I could say you all have helped me sort this out but I still feel like I'm swimming up stream and flip flop back and forth multiple times per day.

I'm afraid you'll always feel like this when comparing gear especially since you can't really put a cost difference between differences in features.

I keep saying this in multiple threads but the $$$ has to be one of the biggest considerations.

You should be able to get the 7dm2 for about $1600 new. And it looks like Adorama has a used 1dm4 with "E" rating for $2500 but I imagine you may be able to find a slightly lower priced ones listed in the forum here.

I think if you have the cash and don't mind spending $2500, you should get the 1dm4. If you want to save some money now for something bigger/better later, I'd get the 7dm2. That was my decision tree for my 7dm2 purchase since I wanted the 400mm 2.8 IS II.

I don't really think there is a "wrong" choice here for both of these cameras.


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Dec 05, 2014 09:05 |  #48

I'm wrestling with a similar decision - although I have a 5D2 and 7D and am looking at what to replace my 7D with (so not faced with the "do-all" quandary).

My 5D2 is used for people/landscapes - wide angles or the 70-200 F2.8 and 7D for sports/birds with 70-200 F2.8, 400 F5.6 or 600 F4. I'm upgrading the 7D, and I'm in two minds whether to go new 7D2 or used 1DIV. They're about the same price in Australia.

I'm leaning towards the 7D2 just because of the 1.6 crop and the fact it is a newer body.


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Butterfly when selecting images from flicker you need to copy and paste the BB Code instead of the html code. This way they appear on this site.


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Dec 05, 2014 10:08 |  #50

I love my 1D4 and I have used it for everything from wildlife to landscape, people, interiors and the list goes on. My favorite wide angle lens is my Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II Tilt-Shift Lens. The 1D4 does great here are some examples:

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Butterfly when selecting images from flicker you need to copy and paste the BB Code instead of the html code. This way they appear on this site.

I tried to use the BBC code I could not get it to work. I ended up using the image URL and that seems to have worked.


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Dec 20, 2014 09:50 |  #52

Ok, thank you all for helping thus far. I need one last bit of advise.
I have found a new 7dII at $1639 and I have been offered a high shutter count (179k) 1dIV for similar price.
Given the price equality which way do I go? New, with expected 200k shutter count or used with about 120k more expected on the shutter?
The body on the 1dIV looks great for that much use so I would feel confident that it has been well cared for. I trust the seller.
Looks like many are getting the focus issues on the first batch of 7dII's figured out, the 1dIV never had any focus issues I am aware of.
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Dec 20, 2014 09:59 |  #53

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Ok, thank you all for helping thus far. I need one last bit of advise.
I have found a new 7dII at $1639 and I have been offered a high shutter count (179k) 1dIV for similar price.
Given the price equality which way do I go? New, with expected 200k shutter count or used with about 120k more expected on the shutter?
The body on the 1dIV looks great for that much use so I would feel confident that it has been well cared for. I trust the seller.
Looks like many are getting the focus issues on the first batch of 7dII's figured out, the 1dIV never had any focus issues I am aware of.
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The 7d2 doesn't have a focus issue, some portion do. The 1d4 indeed did also have an also issue, at least some portion as well, and that was in low light. The 7d2, in low light, should kill the 1d4. Good price on the 1d4, I would consider it.


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Dec 20, 2014 10:38 |  #54

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The 7d2 doesn't have a focus issue, some portion do. The 1d4 indeed did also have an also issue, at least some portion as well, and that was in low light. The 7d2, in low light, should kill the 1d4. Good price on the 1d4, I would consider it.


Well, maybe I phrased that incorrectly, but it sure does appear that there have been some very bad copies of the 7dII out there, how many pages are we up to on the 2 threads here, many very experienced shooters on FM have sent their 7dII's back for exchange, some more than 1. So to say the 7dII doesn't have a focus issue, I think is inaccurate. Now, maybe it's an isolated run of them or they have fixed the issue, but you cannot deny that some have gotten poor focusing copies of this body.
I wasn't aware of any focus issues with the 1dIV, only those of the 1dIII. I could have missed it, since I wasn't really in the market for one when they were released.


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Dec 20, 2014 10:44 as a reply to  @ JVthePT's post |  #55

The 1d4 has some poor focusing units, I had one. Also there are some that thought they had focusing issues, but have also learned how to set up parameters and shoot differently too, with the 1d style af system. There are what, maybe 40 to 60 unique members across the two boards, and that is dwarfed by owners with no issues that are silent.


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Dec 20, 2014 11:20 |  #56

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The quiet shutter does appeal to me.
I was shooting eagles this morning and an eagle perched on a deadfall tree in the middle of the river a good 110 yds from me would look at me every time my 70d's shutter would smack and I know it's not as loud as that found on a 1d4.

Did you have the silent shutter enabled on the 70D?


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Dec 20, 2014 12:07 |  #57

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The 1d4 has some poor focusing units, I had one. Also there are some that thought they had focusing issues, but have also learned how to set up parameters and shoot differently too, with the 1d style af system. There are what, maybe 40 to 60 unique members across the two boards, and that is dwarfed by owners with no issues that are silent.


Very true and point well taken.


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Dec 20, 2014 12:08 |  #58

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Did you have the silent shutter enabled on the 70D?


No.
It doesn't make a huge difference on the 70 that I noticed, the 6d is significantly quieter.


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Dec 20, 2014 16:28 |  #59

Just paid for a used 1d4! I'm so excited to get it and start learning!

Thank you to all that have helped me sort this out in my mind.


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Dec 20, 2014 17:21 as a reply to  @ JVthePT's post |  #60

Good choice IMHO.


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