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Dec 21, 2014 13:11 |  #1

I did a search, but didn't find anything about this?

Every picture ever posted on facebook, they may use for advertisement.
and that included with your personal info.vmad
they don't have to pay you for it.:cry:
they may edit it, and away is your watermark or logo.

Ad least, thats what here in holland starts on Jan 2015.

IE = content and information sharing

you yourself own all the content and information you post on facebook and your privacy and application settings , you can control how it is shared. further the following provisions apply :

Content subject to intellectual property rights , like photos and videos (ie content) , emphatically you give us the following permission , depending on your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non - exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, worldwide license ie to use all content that you post on facebook or in connection with Facebook (ie license). ie this License ends when you ie your content or deleting your account , unless you shared your content with others and they do not have the content removed.

When you publish content or information using the Public setting , it means you everyone, including people outside of facebook, gives permission to view that information and use and linking them to you ( ie, your name and profile picture) .

Check the legal/terms on your facebook page.


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Dec 21, 2014 13:27 |  #2

Utter drivel - yet another person who doesn't understand licensing agreements.

And they aren't even "new".


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Dec 21, 2014 13:47 |  #3

Please explain Dan...


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Dec 21, 2014 14:35 |  #4

All websites that host photographs have these legal statements, they need them in order to host your own photo. This is not some nefarious plot to steal your photo and use in advertisements. It means what it says, when you put your own content on their site, you are giving them permission to display the image you posted. And that right ends when you decide to delete the image from the site.

And the second part means other people can link to the images and look at them too. Until you delete them, see above.


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Dec 21, 2014 14:50 |  #5

It's how they cover themselves and make it possible to have your profile pics, etc show up on other peoples' streams, timelines, posts, etc. Every, single site out there that has social media interactions, including sites like Flickr have that or a similar clause in their TOS.


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Dec 21, 2014 16:13 |  #6

No, they can take your picture.
They can advertise with it, without your permission. and they will starting on Jan 2015.
They will make money on selling your picture!!!!!!!!
They even can use users profile info for it.
that's something complete different then share your picture.

please read the legal/terms on your face book page.
what i have posted is a on-line translation from Dutch. things can read funny that way.

Here in Europe only Germany have a better privacy rules, the new terms are excluded for them.


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Dec 21, 2014 16:44 |  #7

Dan Marchant wrote in post #17344622 (external link)
Utter drivel - yet another person who doesn't understand licensing agreements.

And they aren't even "new".


^^^ This.

No different to when masses of people got their knickers in a twist to the new Facebook Messenger App when the T's and C's were the same as Snap Chat, Sykpe, What's App etc.

Sensationalist claptrap.


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Dec 21, 2014 16:57 |  #8

The licencing terms that may mention advertising are usually there so that you cannot complain when they show your image, or even just some of your text, on a page, where they have advertising banners top and bottom. even POTN has a licencing agreement that includes similar language. Of course since Pekka is such a great guy and pays for all of this out of his own pocket, we do not have to worry about adverts appearing alongside our carefully crafted dissertations and stunning photographic images. Or should that be incoherent ramblings, and lackluster snapshots :p.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:05 |  #9

Mozes wrote in post #17344808 (external link)
No, they can take your picture.
They can advertise with it, without your permission. and they will starting on Jan 2015.
They will make money on selling your picture!!!!!!!!
They even can use users profile info for it.
that's something complete different then share your picture.

please read the legal/terms on your face book page.
what i have posted is a on-line translation from Dutch. things can read funny that way.

Here in Europe only Germany have a better privacy rules, the new terms are excluded for them.

Are you wearing a tin foil hat?

Seriously though this is for when some jack ass sues Facebook because they shared a drunk photo of them when they were running for political office and they are upset they ever posted it to Facebook.

Believe me Facebook has enough money to pay for am image for an ad. The amount of negative PR they would get for using someone's image without their permission on a media-driven website far outweigh the couple grand they would have to pay to legitimately use the image.


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Dec 21, 2014 21:37 |  #10

Mozes wrote in post #17344808 (external link)
No, they can take your picture.
They can advertise with it, without your permission. and they will starting on Jan 2015.
They will make money on selling your picture!!!!!!!!
They even can use users profile info for it.
that's something complete different then share your picture.

Putting it in bold and adding exclamation marks !!!!! wont !!!! make !!!! it !!!! true !!!!

You don't understand the license agreement. The site you read this on doesn't understand it either. Even if FB could sell my photos for adverts (which they can't) anyone using them would be sued by the people in those photos for using them without a model release.


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Dec 22, 2014 03:20 |  #11

Dan Marchant wrote in post #17345195 (external link)
The site you read this on doesn't understand it either.

its on the facebook page, and nowhere else.
i dont say not for nothing read the terms on your facebook page

Perhaps its in Europe alone?
or i indeed don't understand it.
But it is news here in newspapers, radio and television.


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Dec 22, 2014 03:42 |  #12

Mozes wrote in post #17345463 (external link)
its on the facebook page, and nowhere else.
i dont say not for nothing read the terms on your facebook page

Sorry I thought you meant you read it on a Dutch website. I now see that you read the Dutch version of the FB page.

I have read the terms on my FB page and my FB account is with FB Europe. I have spent 20 years working on IP related licensing agreements so I know you are misunderstanding what it said and as a result your post is wrong. The posters above who explained it are correct and any newspapers who are saying this have misunderstood too.

FB aren't selling your images or anyone else's - they are selling you (and all the info they have about you) to advertisers. If they started selling users photos everyone would leave FB and they would have no user data to sell to all the companies that advertise on FB.


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Dec 22, 2014 17:58 |  #13

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Jon wrote in post #17346597 (external link)
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^^^ This ^^^

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